[NL2-NL10] NL10 AK facing 4bet shove

    • thorturgutt
      thorturgutt
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.08.2009 Posts: 84
      opponent is 16/12/4.0 3bet over 50 hands. is it correct/incorrect to call his shove here with AK ? i dont have any specific reads.

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

      UTG ($58.23)
      MP ($25.35)
      CO ($27.88)
      Button ($25)
      Hero (SB) ($117.62)
      BB ($26.79)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:heart: , K:spade:
      1 fold, MP bets $0.85, 2 folds, Hero raises $2.90, 1 fold, MP raises $24.50 (All-In), Hero calls $22.35

      Flop: ($50.95) 7:club: , 2:heart: , 10:diamond: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: ($50.95) 3:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($50.95) 5:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $50.95
  • 2 replies
    • yeahyoung0312
      yeahyoung0312
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.12.2009 Posts: 340
      This is NL25 right?

      Easy fold. Even against a range of TT+ and AK, you are close to a 2-3 underdog. You were given something like 22 - 27 to call.

      Notice that it's not that you pushing against MP's 4bet (which would have given you the right odds to push against QQ+ and AK). It's MP pushing against your 3 bet. The odds are totally different in these two situations.

      If you think villain's on tilt then you might think of calling.

      BTW if you have more than 4BI and there is another effective stack of about 2.3 BI you should think about quitting the table.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,

      Originally posted by yeahyoung0312
      This is NL25 right?

      Easy fold. Even against a range of TT+ and AK, you are close to a 2-3 underdog. You were given something like 22 - 27 to call.

      Notice that it's not that you pushing against MP's 4bet (which would have given you the right odds to push against QQ+ and AK). It's MP pushing against your 3 bet. The odds are totally different in these two situations.

      If you think villain's on tilt then you might think of calling.

      BTW if you have more than 4BI and there is another effective stack of about 2.3 BI you should think about quitting the table.
      Sounds fine, except for the table quitting thing. If he's a huge fish it's super -ev to leave while you're deep with him, and even if he's a reg most of the time him having a deepstack won't make any difference at these limits, they just don't know how to use them effectively to make your life hard.

      So if he starts 3betting you in position all the time and you feel like you can't 4bet effectively because of the stacks, then yes you can leave, otherwise don't just run away every time you get deep for no reason.


      Hope it helps.