[NL20-NL50] NL50 KK(utg2), fr

    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,520
      PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

      Hero (UTG+1) ($54)
      MP1 ($61.20)
      MP2 ($40.75)
      MP3 ($190.25)
      CO ($50.50)
      Button ($53.20)
      SB ($50)
      BB ($98.95)
      UTG ($52.25)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K:club: , K:diamond:
      1 fold, Hero bets $2, 5 folds, SB raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $54 (All-In), SB calls $20 (All-In)

      Flop: ($100.50) 3:spade: , Q:diamond: , Q:heart: (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: ($100.50) K:spade: (2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: ($100.50) 9:heart: (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: $100.50 | Rake: $3


      Hi!

      Villain is 12/10/2.9 with only 3% 3b from sb 7k hands.

      Given that fact that villain is uber tight and that he never ever bluff 5b is it possible to lay down kings in this spot?
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I wouldn´t personally fold since I think player is capable shoving there AK or QQ and that is enough to 4-bet/call KK that spot
      also you´ve put in close to 40% your stack and then it is never good thing to fold your KK against shove
      And I think KK should be still ahead his 3% 3-bet range so I´m happy to get stack in
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,520
      Yeah but am I delusional to think he wil shove QQ and AK(maybe) and is weak 5betting me only with AA?
      Dunno, just seems like a desperate attempt do drag in my monies and not scare me off at the same time or bluff 5b(which he is never doing against my utg range). Otherwise I agree completely with u, but when can one fold KK pf? I mean with some signs it can be done. NL50 to soon? =) He obviousely had them and I cracked them :P =)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Gregor86
      Yeah but am I delusional to think he wil shove QQ and AK(maybe) and is weak 5betting me only with AA?
      Dunno, just seems like a desperate attempt do drag in my monies and not scare me off at the same time or bluff 5b(which he is never doing against my utg range). Otherwise I agree completely with u, but when can one fold KK pf? I mean with some signs it can be done. NL50 to soon? =) He obviousely had them and I cracked them :P =)
      I tried to fold KK nl 10 and nl 25 after reaching nl 50 I really haven´t fold KK pf
      Just it is very rare when it is setup KK vs AA and it is very hard to predict when nit/tag his holding AA
      You can consider folding if it is like raise/you 3-bet/some nit is 4-betting and first player is going all-in
      Then you´ve only invested 11bb and you can get away KK there cheap but if you move up to nl 100 then players are very shove happy (even nits) since it is constant 3-bet/4-bet/5-bet wars
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,402
      I agree. If you start folding KK pre, you will lose a lot of value vs opponents who shove AK/QQ and you also miss the opportunity to suck out vs AA once in a while. ;)