[NL20-NL50] NL50 FR - AA oop vs raise

    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
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      Joined: 05.04.2009 Posts: 7,755
      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP1:
      $54.00
      MP2:
      $115.35
      MP3:
      $37.45
      CO:
      $53.30
      BU:
      $8.50
      SB:
      $126.00
      BB:
      $149.75
      UTG1:
      $71.85
      UTG2 (Hero):
      $50.00


      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with A, A.
      UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2.00, 5 folds, 4 folds, 3 folds, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($4.75) J, 8, T (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.50, MP2 raises to $15.25, Hero?


      How do you play in this spot? (villain unknown)
  • 6 replies
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
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      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,520
      Hi!

      Against an unknown I am shoving cuz the board is really drawy and he can play his draws like that too.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      fold
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
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      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,520
      Hmmm... Didn`t really see you held the A :diamond: . That kinda narrows down a lot of A :diamond: x :diamond: combos... But still I think I am shoving cuz I really don`t wanna beat myself on the head after 50 hands when guy shoves up with 50/30 or smth.

      NightFrostaSS it would be nice if you could write down arguments beside your short answers.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      Because once you get it in you are very likely to be crushed or flipping/slightly ahead, in general behind vs villains whole range.

      Ofc he's unknown but vs unknowns we have to play by some general assumptions we made, for example my assumptions for NL50 full ring would be that full stacked people are most likely to turn out to be quite passive and tight in general as well as will give lots of credit for early position raisers which makes me think it's unlikely that on average we will be bluff raised frequently in this situation or average opponent raise call with weaker value hands.

      Later on when we obtain more reads we can adjust our game/stacking off ranges accordingly. IMO.
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
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      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,520
      So much better. And I agree with you. Thnx ;)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      really though board to play
      I also think fold is likely better since I really doubt players are raising there with KQ or J9
      If player is really aggressive then you can also shove but until you have any dynamic fold is better