Omaha Coaching session on 3rd November

  • Poll Poll ends on 30.09.2010, at 12:06.
    • Decide the topic for the first coaching session

      • 16
        Live Beginners Guide for PLO8
        47%
      • 14
        Live PLO Question & Answer Session
        41%
      • 4
        Live Talk about Limit Omaha 8
        12%
      Total: 34 Votes
    • authman
      authman
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.08.2008 Posts: 811
      Hello,

      Villain has played 1K PLO8 sits of 20$ in average, 13.6% ROI, almost 3K$ in winnings, finishing 28% in ML and 14.2% in Late, and from the previous 12 times UTG he only opened once, getting the pot preflop.

      Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament 9 Players (6 Remaining)
      Stacks:
      UTG (2,277) VPIP: 20, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 56
      UTG+1 (2,031)
      CO (2,704)
      BTN (1,552)
      SB (1,541)
      Hero (3,395)

      Blinds: 150/300

      Pre-Flop: (450, 6 players) Hero is BB 2:spade: A:diamond: 3:spade: K:heart:
      UTG raises to 900, 4 folds, Hero folds

      Final Pot: 1,350

      UTG wins 1,350 (net +450)

      As you may already know, I am trying to apply ICM concepts to PLO8, so:
      With my current stack, seeing that tight-winner player, I think fold is the most proper option, because:
      If I call he would be pot-committed, shoving any flop for sure
      If I raise and we finish allin preflop, my hand against his likely AALx hand is 60-40 underdog (I do not think he would fold)

      So, what would you do?

      Thanks and regards.


      P.S. Uppps, I thought the training started at 19:30 CET, but I have realised it is at 18:30... Please do not comment this hand until 19:30 (I arrive from work at that time)
    • Nivlem
      Nivlem
      Silver
      Joined: 28.05.2008 Posts: 4,862
      See you guys in an hour! Please post your hands if you want us to have a look at them!
    • MP89EST
      MP89EST
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.03.2008 Posts: 385
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($71.90)
      BB ($44.47)
      UTG ($33.71)
      CO ($28.88)
      Hero ($26.95)

      Dealt to Hero 2 :club: 8 :club: 5 :heart: A :heart:

      UTG calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.12, SB calls $1, fold, UTG calls $0.87

      FLOP ($3.61) 6 :spade: 7 :diamond: J :heart:

      SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB folds, UTG calls $2.50

      TURN ($8.61) 6 :spade: 7 :diamond: J :heart: K :club:

      UTG checks, Hero bets $6.50, UTG calls $6.50

      RIVER ($21.61) 6 :spade: 7d :diamond: J :heart: K :club: 6 :diamond:

      UTG bets $3.75, Hero ?

      Villain can´t credibly rep anything with his R blocking bet, so should we shove, although he odds 4:1, but we show such strength?
      How often would we be looked up by an 6 when we are facing 74/5 over 20 hands?
      Should I cbet or not? What should be my main considerations either to check back or cbet?

      Edit by SvenBe: added suits
    • Kojika
      Kojika
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.02.2009 Posts: 4,095
      Vilain is unknown but i'm pretty sure he's a fish (one tabling, weird stack size, ...)

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($42.70)
      BB ($209)
      UTG ($25.30)
      UTG+1 ($91.30)
      Hero ($344)
      BTN ($110)

      Dealt to Hero K:heart: T:diamond: 7:diamond: 9:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $3.50

      FLOP ($10.50) J:diamond: 8:heart: 9:spade:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6, UTG+1 calls $6

      TURN ($22.50) J:diamond: 8:heart: 9:spade: 7:spade:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $17, UTG+1 raises to $34, Hero raises to $124, UTG+1 calls $46.80 (AI)

      RIVER ($184) J:diamond: 8:heart: 9:spade: 7:spade: 8:club:
    • DRONeRPD
      DRONeRPD
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.08.2007 Posts: 10,940
      UTG - agrofish
      bu - good regular? 3-bet about 12, highly agressive and splashy
      What is the better line - donk turn or c\ decide?
      I thought he will quite often will bet turn with multidraws etc especially as i have quite nitty image and in my range there is not very much strong hands. So I push against draws, ok?
      Yes 3-bet preflop will be quite good, but bu can easy 4-bet into deepstack quite wide range and I had to fold so nice hand.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
      SB ($201)
      BB ($102)
      UTG ($885)
      UTG+1 ($259)
      Hero ($741)
      BTN ($385)

      Dealt to Hero 4:spade: 6:heart: Q:heart: A:spade:

      UTG raises to $4, fold, Hero calls $4, BTN raises to $19, fold, fold, UTG calls $15, Hero calls $15

      FLOP ($60) 2:spade: A:club: 6:diamond:

      UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $42, UTG folds, Hero calls $42

      TURN ($144) 2:spade: A:club: 6:diamond: 7:diamond:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $114, Hero raises to $486, BTN calls $210 (AI)

      RIVER ($793) 2:spade: A:club: 6:diamond: 7:diamond: 3:club:
    • VanHalen812
      VanHalen812
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2010 Posts: 466
      Is it a huge mistake to push to paired board having only a flush draw? I have no reads of the villain.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($11.02)
      Hero ($24.25)
      CO ($109)
      BTN ($55.70)

      Dealt to Hero A:diamond: T:spade: K:heart: Q:spade:

      CO raises to $1.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5, CO calls $3.25

      FLOP ($10.25) 6:club: 6:spade: 4:spade:

      Hero bets $10.25, CO raises to $41, Hero calls $9 (AI)
    • bugyg2002
      bugyg2002
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.01.2011 Posts: 41
      Hy,i am interested in CAP plo 6 handed 0.25$/0.50$ could you give some advice.What kind of hand should i play cap(all-in 10$) preflop beside AA** and KK**?Or anything that could help me.
      Thanks
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,918
      What's in the menu today?
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,918
      Where is Ribbo?!!! Coaching started 7mins ago...
    • blackops888
      blackops888
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.04.2010 Posts: 502
      Originally posted by Kyyberi
      Where is Ribbo?!!! Coaching started 7mins ago...
      So I'm not the only one missing him? :s_biggrin:
    • blackops888
      blackops888
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.04.2010 Posts: 502
      Server doesn't connect. Is it because the coach is not logged in?
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,918
      It should connect, but there's nothing to see/hear
    • blackops888
      blackops888
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.04.2010 Posts: 502
      Mine doesn't even connect. That's the second week in a row that something happens and we don't have coaching. :s_mad:
    • SvenBe
      SvenBe
      Headadmin
      Headadmin
      Joined: 19.04.2006 Posts: 13,473
      he guys, Ribbo was in Gibraltar for a visit and supposed to be back @ home for the coaching in time - I'll investigate and find out why he is missing....

      edit: he went to the computer shop to pick up his repaired computer - unfortunately it takes them longer than one week to get the necessary pieces :-(
    • ManoloB99
      ManoloB99
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.09.2009 Posts: 88
      Great training session today for Omaha NL H/L, Wednesday August 17. Ribbo offered some good comments regarding what to play and how to gauge our opponents. Really wish this would become a weekly series instead of bi-weekly but anyways...

      :s_thumbsup: :f_thumbsup: for Ribbo.
    • gadget51
      gadget51
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      ManoloB99 said it really. I hadn't seem nlo8 so I enjoyed it a lot.

      My only grip eis that Ribbo makes everybody look so transparent and it's all so easy guys, honest! Lol, ye in my dreams, but excellent stuff ty.

      I like that the coach can say; 'Well that J on the turn's a kick in the bollox' and it's exactly how we think in that spot, lol.
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,918
      What are you going to play today?
    • Ribbo
      Ribbo
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.06.2010 Posts: 6,157
      Originally posted by Kyyberi
      What are you going to play today?
      What do you want me to play? :f_biggrin:
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,918
      PLO HU :)
    • Ribbo
      Ribbo
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.06.2010 Posts: 6,157
      Originally posted by Kyyberi
      PLO HU :)
      I'm not going to coach something I don't play. Try again! :f_cool: