[NL20-NL50] nl50 SH TT, facing utg raise and tight 3bet pre

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($61.55)
      Hero ($74.85)
      UTG ($59.70)
      UTG+1 ($132)
      CO ($55.85)
      BTN ($44.05)

      Dealt to Hero T:heart: T:diamond:

      UTG raises to $1.75, fold, CO raises to $6, fold, fold, Hero calls $5.50, UTG calls $4.25

      FLOP ($18.25) 8:heart: 6:club: A:heart:

      Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $10.50, Hero folds, UTG raises to $21, CO raises to $49.85 (AI), UTG calls $28.85

      TURN ($117) 8:heart: 6:club: A:heart: 5:club:

      RIVER ($117) 8:heart: 6:club: A:heart: 5:club: Q:club:

      CO wins $114

      utg 21/13/75 hands, CO 14/10/4, 3b 3%, 202 hands. I think our call is super standard preflop against these apparently tight ranges? It's much closer if we expect utg to fold to the 3b (once we over call), but given that he calls quite often in my opinion and that we are all 110bb deep I don't think we cant fold our hand pre given potential implied odds?
  • 3 replies
    • MathhNes
      MathhNes
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.08.2009 Posts: 953
      I dont believe you can call preflop for set value. You dont know if UTG will 4bet and you are not guaranteed to get payed off when you hit. If we knew that CO was a loose 3better vs UTG opens i wouldnt mind 4bet/call but here it seems like that he is tight and to me this is just a fold
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Not quite sure about your call either.
      If you are sure that UTG will call that's close. But UTG can also 4B here, which is highly possible since he is tigh raising from early position.

      I would probably have folded myself.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think you can call pf if you´re deeper than 100bb
      co range seems quite tight so i think utg would not 4-bet there too often and might also call pf and if you hit your set then likely get paid.
      So calling 5.5 to win 59$ or 109$ doesn´t seem to be the worst play :)