[NL20-NL50] JJ Fold pre vs 3B

    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
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      iPoker - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG: $62.07 VP:26/PR:18/AFq:56 over 700 hands
      MP: $52.84 VP:17/PR:14/AFq:46/3B:6%(MP:1% [140hands]) over 10k hands
      CO: $107.87
      Hero (BTN): $54.46
      SB: $20.35
      BB: $110.15

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has J:heart: J:diamond:

      UTG raises to $1.75, MP raises to $6.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

      MP 3B looks strong. What should I do?
  • 7 replies
    • JoaoMartins
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      Post some more stats in 3-bet hands. Can you give me MP's 3-bet average, and positional 3-bet on MP? And UTG's fold to 3-bet. I think a call will be valid in most of the cases, but stats would help.
    • Dublimax
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      I will give the additionnal stats, later in the day though.
      Thanks for reviewing the hands, very helpful to find out that I have played badly almost all of them!! :(
    • JoaoMartins
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      Originally posted by Dublimax
      I will give the additionnal stats, later in the day though.
      Thanks for reviewing the hands, very helpful to find out that I have played badly almost all of them!! :(
      Don't take my reviews too seriously, I'm just trying to learn.

      About playing them badly, these were the hardest hands on your sessions. The next time, you won't make the same mistakes. However, like I said, don't think you were wrong just because of what I posted. Think about what I said, and try to disagree with me. You must have had some reasoning behind your plays, and I might have missed it. Also, I may just have plainly missplayed your hand.

      Again, don't take my word as the truth, it is merely my opinion.

      I'm not even a judge :f_p:
    • Dublimax
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      I have updated the stats.
      MP 3B = 1% so I guess that was a good fold preflop...
    • JoaoMartins
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      I think it was a good enough fold, but I wouldn't go so far as to say a call would be bad. If he 3-bets that little, you can call with your JJ for set value.
    • mrxLT
      mrxLT
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      Originally posted by JoaoMartins
      I think it was a good enough fold, but I wouldn't go so far as to say a call would be bad. If he 3-bets that little, you can call with your JJ for set value.
      naah, i think its a fold. You cant call for set value. Problems:
      You still have UTG to act, if he will wake up with a hand that he wants to go broke pf you will have to fold.
      You get exactly 8:1, you will hit your set once in about 8 times. But you will be coolered sometimes (set over set) and MP will have sometimes KK and board will be A high, you will not stack him.
      So its a clear fold imo.
      Of course, if we call, sometimes UTG will come along, but he will be setmining aswell.
    • Kaitz20
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      yeah against 1% 3-bet I´d also fold there JJ
      Don´t see there way how you can play there profitable
      Even if he has there sometimes AK you make mistake folding on 68T board to c-bet since you missed your set