[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH - flopped str8

    • Horin
      Horin
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      Joined: 06.06.2008 Posts: 137
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $38.95
      BU:
      $160.40
      SB:
      $10.25
      BB (Hero):
      $46.15
      MP2:
      $21.90
      MP3:
      $60.00


      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, T.
      3 folds, BU calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($1.5) Q, 8, 9 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BU calls $1.50, SB folds.

      Turn: ($4.5) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.50, BU raises to $13.00, Hero calls $9.50.

      River: ($30.5) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $25.00, Hero folds, BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $30.5.

      villan is 39/11/ AFq 42 fish with -14K profit. Is it possible to call raise at turn? because I dont know if I am not already behind and if I hit flush which is not str8 flush I can still be behind.
  • 6 replies
    • aelfewulf
      aelfewulf
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      Joined: 09.12.2009 Posts: 28
      I would check/call the turn. The pot is still small cos no preflop raise.
      Then check/call river, unless its a river shove.
      Or u can donk bet/fold 1/2 pot on river.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      I bet turn also. There is still value to get from worse hands and we should be protecting against pair+ :diamond: type hands.

      However once we get raised I think we can already think about folding. however fishy our opponent is when he raises this big, he normally has it imo.

      If we don't fold turn, I check/fold River as played.
    • Horin
      Horin
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      Joined: 06.06.2008 Posts: 137
      Originally posted by Tim64
      However once we get raised I think we can already think about folding. however fishy our opponent is when he raises this big, he normally has it imo.
      The question is what do you mean by has it? because ive seen lot of fish valuebeting lower streights sets or two pairs even over possible flush on board. So overpairs are easy fold but here I can still be good with streight or if I hit flush.

      But maybe this is one of my leaks to overthink about possibilities in very big pots and I should just fold if I dont have close to nuts and move to next hand.
    • Horin
      Horin
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      Joined: 06.06.2008 Posts: 137
      Originally posted by aelfewulf

      Or u can donk bet/fold 1/2 pot on river.
      This half pot donk beting on river is very interesting option. I have been thinking about this in general line:

      I am OOP and value c-betting flop and turn and then some ugly card which complete draws appear on river. I usualy check / fold becuase at NL50 ppl are most time not bluffing. But maybe some regs or even fish who try to be aggresive can adjust and push me out of pot when they notice that card slowed me down ( usualy I am valuetowning with goods at all 3 streets)

      So I've tried to donk bet /fold small ( 40% of pot ) on those rivers. But I am usualy raised anyway so result was i started loosing more then needed. :s_confused:
    • aelfewulf
      aelfewulf
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      Joined: 09.12.2009 Posts: 28
      @Horin

      It's something like a blockbet.
      U can only use it vary rarely.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think betting turn is fine, but likely when fish raises you that big, you might be drawing dead.
      Pot is too small to fight over it, so i think b/f against that big raise is better option than b/c. he is mostly not raising there two pair or lower straights that big