[NL2-NL10] NL2 JQo in SB

    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (SB): $2.04
      BB: $0.64
      UTG: $0.71
      UTG+1: $4.64
      MP: $2.76
      CO: $3.69
      BTN: $2.00

      Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J:diamond: Q:club:

      UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, UTG raises to $0.71 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.61

      Flop: ($1.44, 2 players) A:heart: T:diamond: 7:spade:

      Turn: ($1.44, 2 players) 4:heart:

      River: ($1.44, 2 players) 4:diamond:

      Stupid Limp Raisers shouldent of made a spite call.
  • 2 replies
    • fusionpk
      fusionpk
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,691
      This is an easy fold. Limp UTG raise is usually v strong, altho occasionally someone limps with shit and decides they don't want to be bullied. (not often though).

      You have a very mediocre hand that imo does very badly vs his UTG l/r range.

      Preflop, the pot is $0.12 after your raise, when he shoves it costs you $0.61 to win $0.73 more, so you need to be good 0.61 in 1.34 times to more or less b/e. Which is more or less 50% of the time.

      By just equilating vs his range say, he has stone nuts when he limp raises AKo,AKs,KK+ you have 26% equity, massively losing spot.

      Lets add in some hands, say he has JJ+ AQo+ which is a bit of a looser range but still v possible (although his line tends towards the nuts). Vs this range you only have 24% equity, again your a big dog.

      Infact lets pretend he ships most broadways & 88+ which is a v loose shipping range, for example a broadway range of: ATo+,KQ,KJ,QJ,JT,88+, you still only have 36% equity, again another losing spot.

      So you can see vs so much of his range here you are big dog, and vs his mostly likely range (big pps/big broadways) you are even bigger dog. Just for the sake of it lets equilate vs some random trash too:
      Range: ATo+,KQ,KJ,QJ,JT,88+,78s,67s,9Ts,KT,56s,75s,T8s,97s,T9o,K9,A9
      You have 42% equity, so even with a shit load of suited connectors, broadways weak aces etc etc you still have bad equity and his range is crushing you. If you thought he nvr limp raised his big hands, and he was limping shit and just shoving for a giggle, check this, his range is:
      78s,67s,9Ts,KT,56s,75s,T8s,97s,T9o,K9,A9 no pocket pairs or particularly strong hands, odd mediocre ace/king, you are only 51% vs his whole range here, which is rly only break even spot, and he like nvr has these hands.

      As you can see, we assign him ranges all the way from shit to nuts & u are still nvr v good vs him, he tends here to always have the v top of these ranges so please don't go broke with QJo p/f again, its a very -EV spot. Also you might want to be careful playing QJo OOP in SB, you can get into tough spots and lose lots of money being dominated etc.

      GL at the tables
    • Duudalinja
      Duudalinja
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.12.2009 Posts: 1,030
      Howdy,

      Iso raise seems fine to me, but getting shoved is just enough to fold here. Fishes are just way too "tricky" and they can easily limp monsters and when they see someone interested in hand - just shove over to avoid any postflop game as they think you are calling anyway. So I'd fold in general without doubt. As you see in fusionpk equity calculations Villain has to shove like any two to call, but they are just not doing it.

      Good luck!