No Pain No Gain - BSS from NL5 to the stars...

    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Hi there,

      let me introduce my self a bit.
      My real name is Peter and this year i celebrated my 30 birthday, after that i decided that i need some kind of change in my life (everybody knows that feeling, am i right? :D ), it tooks me couple month to figure out what i want to do as a change and then it just falls on me from sky when my project in work ended prematuraly and there was no other interesting project that i wanted to work on, so i quit and take a couple months break from work :tongue: . And after that i accept
      work offer in Prague and decided that i will move there from Bratislava.
      And now i can say it was a great decision because i like it here very much :D

      Now something about my poker "career" :D

      after couple months of trying to beat NL2 without any strategy and understanding of the game it self I finally decided to give it a try and start to study a lot from this nice site. And as I progress with reading and trying BSS strategy on NL2 I found out, as probably many of you, that it is working :D After that i managed to raise my BR from 50$ to the actual amount of 160$ (thanks to
      FullTilt Take2 action ;) )

      So for now i decided to move on from NL2 (finally :D ) and start playing on NL5FR on Fulltilt with some help from Holdem Manager and of course strategy section of this site and hopefully you guys ;) My plan is pretty straightforward, just to climb limits with decent BR management (30 BI required for another lvl) and as i learned before, studying is a must, so i will make sure that i’ll remind me that from while to while.
      I am not going to rush my poker career in any ways, i like my current time management (i am playing max 4 tables at the same time and only one session/day in a normal working day) and i want to play always my A+ game ...

      So here are some of my rules I want to stick on:

      1.
      Reading all possible articles from PS at least 3 times (for start BSS ofc)
      basic approach is 1 article before session (that is just because i am traveling a lot with tram, every day from work almost one hour)

      2.
      Watch all possible videos according to my status i used to watch all kind of series before sleeping but now i really cannot find anything more interesting then poker videos from PS (amazing isn't it? :D )

      3.
      reviewing hands via Holdem Manager

      4.
      posting hands in forum and evaluate hands from other players this is something that i can probably do in work :D

      If you think that something is missing here, don't let it for your self please :D and write it here...

      Thank you for your time and once more: don't hesitate to write any of your opinions.

      See you at the tables :D
  • 57 replies
    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Hi there,

      a new month arrived and i am finally ready to start playing, so here are my goals for this month:

      :spade: Read at least half of the silver articles

      :heart: Play at least 15 000 hands this month

      :diamond: watch all white and bronze videos about BSS and general strategy

      :club: evaluate hands from my session and post the weird ones

      and finally put graph here after each 5k hands ...

      Have a great month guys!!!
    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Hello guys,
      so first session is over i played 1k hands yestarday and made a lot of mistakes :D

      here are some hands that i need help with:

      1:
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP1 ($7.81)
      MP2 ($5)
      MP3 ($5.18)
      CO ($4.79)
      Button ($4.68)
      SB ($4.85)
      Hero (BB) ($7.45)
      UTG ($5.78)
      UTG+1 ($5.81)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 10
      2 folds, MP1 bets $0.15, 4 folds, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.45) K, 8, 7 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks

      Turn: ($0.45) 8 (3 players)
      SB bets $0.30, Hero folds, 1 fold

      Total pot: $0.45 | Rake: $0.03

      Results:
      SB didn't show
      Outcome: SB won $0.42


      i was thinking 4-bet after flop?
      SB villian stats are: 55hands 43/19/57/1,4/100 VPIP/PFR/Callopen/AF/Cbet - from 2 hands

      2.
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($7.88)
      UTG+1 ($5)
      MP1 ($5.63)
      MP2 ($4.86)
      MP3 ($4.55)
      CO ($5.30)
      Hero (Button) ($6.64)
      SB ($5.95)
      BB ($5.66)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
      5 folds, CO bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.37) 10, J, 6 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.77) 4 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.25

      River: ($1.77) K (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero checks

      Total pot: $1.77 | Rake: $0.11

      Results:
      Hero had J, J (three of a kind, Jacks).
      CO had 7, 6 (one pair, sixes).
      Outcome: Hero won $1.66

      on the river i got scared with the flush and straight possibility and was thinking that villian set up a trap on me so i just check it was that right ?

      3.this one totally mess with my head :D

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($4.80)
      MP1 ($3.82)
      MP2 ($6.10)
      CO ($1.05)
      Button ($0.61)
      SB ($1.30)
      Hero (BB) ($5)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
      UTG calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.30, MP1 raises to $0.65, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

      Flop: ($2.10) 9, 2, 8 (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.70, UTG calls $1.70, MP1 raises to $3.17 (All-In), Hero calls $1.47, UTG calls $1.47

      Turn: ($11.61) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)
      Hero bets $1.18 (All-In), UTG calls $0.98 (All-In)

      River: ($13.57) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

      Total pot: $13.57 | Rake: $0.90

      Results:
      Hero had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
      UTG had Q, 10 (high card, Queen).
      MP1 had K, K (one pair, Kings).
      Outcome: Hero won $1.83, MP1 won $10.84

      how should i play hands like this when villian limps high pairs and then start to minraise them? whole game i was putting him on everything else then kings ... :( about stats: i had only 3 hands on him 100/33/-

      4.
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($3.36)
      UTG+1 ($4.87)
      MP1 ($3.28)
      MP2 ($0.50)
      MP3 ($5.03)
      CO ($5.31)
      Button ($1.23)
      Hero (SB) ($5.02)
      BB ($5)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K
      4 folds, MP3 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.25

      Flop: ($0.70) 10, 8, 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, Button raises to $0.93 (All-In), Hero calls $0.53

      Turn: ($2.56) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($2.56) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $2.56 | Rake: $0.17

      Results:
      Button had A, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).
      Hero had A, K (one pair, sixes).
      Outcome: Button won $2.39

      after i reviewed this hand i think my cbet was very bad because of villian stacksize, he was allready commited and i bluffed only with overcards .... am i right? maybe check was the right decision there?


      Thank you for your time and your answers guys, have a great time at the tables.
    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Hi everyone,
      another session is finished, another 1000 hands played. :D

      I decided to post on my blog only 2 hands per session:
      hand with largest profit and hand wit largest loss...


      So here there are:

      1. Hand with largest profit:
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP1 ($5)
      MP2 ($1.75)
      Hero (CO) ($5)
      Button ($4.93)
      SB ($1.69)
      BB ($5)
      UTG ($5.30)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, A
      UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.57) 10, 5, 8 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

      Turn: ($1.27) J (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero checks

      River: ($1.27) Q (2 players)
      UTG bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

      Total pot: $3.67 | Rake: $0.24

      Results:
      UTG had K, J (one pair, Jacks).
      Hero had Q, A (one pair, Queens).
      Outcome: Hero won $3.43

      This one was usual CBet after flop and then c/c on the river when Q hit the desk - nothing fancy = good profit :D

      2. Hand with largest loss:
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Button ($5.32)
      SB ($2.88)
      BB ($1.52)
      UTG ($5.93)
      Hero (UTG+1) ($5.57)
      MP1 ($7.17)
      MP2 ($6.69)
      MP3 ($4.88)
      CO ($5)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, A
      1 fold, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.20, 2 folds, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.67) 9, 8, 4 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.47) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75

      River: ($2.97) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, Button bets $0.80, Hero folds

      Total pot: $2.97 | Rake: $0.19

      Results:
      Button didn't show
      Outcome: Button won $2.78

      Almost same situation as previous one but i decided to second barrel (stupid stupid stupid Pokrovec, why the hell are you doing this?? :D ) and that cost me quite a lot .... :(


      All the weird hands i will post in the evaluation forum.
      That's it for now, i need to study articles and post my hands so see you later guys, wish you luck and a lot of fun.
      And fo the end here is my song of this day ;) :

    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Hello fellow pokerstrategist :D

      another session finished, another 1000 hands played.
      Two more sessions and I'll past some graph here hopefully with positive bb/100hands :D

      usual staff:

      1. Hand with largest profit (lucky bastard :D ):

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      BB ($4.86)
      UTG ($12.45)
      UTG+1 ($2.12)
      MP1 ($4.76)
      MP2 ($5.26)
      CO ($10.19)
      Button ($4.75)
      Hero (SB) ($5.14)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
      4 folds, CO bets $0.18, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.16, 1 fold

      Flop: ($0.41) 8, 7, 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.28, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.57

      Turn: ($2.11) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25

      River: ($4.61) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.86 (All-In), CO calls $2.86

      Total pot: $10.33 | Rake: $0.68

      Results:
      Hero had 9, 9 (full house, nines over sevens).
      CO had 10, 10 (two pair, tens and sevens).
      Outcome: Hero won $9.65


      2. Hand with largest loss:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($2.03)
      UTG+1 ($4.95)
      MP1 ($7.21)
      MP2 ($5.32)
      CO ($4.93)
      Button ($5.51)
      SB ($1.77)
      Hero (BB) ($9.36)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
      UTG bets $0.10, 6 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, UTG raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.60, UTG raises to $2.03 (All-In), Hero calls $0.43

      Flop: ($4.08) Q, Q, J (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: ($4.08) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($4.08) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $4.08 | Rake: $0.27

      Results:
      Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and Queens).
      UTG had Q, K (three of a kind, Queens).
      Outcome: UTG won $3.81


      I am quite happy that i am reading articles every day, currently 3 silver articles already printed and red :D
      My plan is to stick to reading articles and start to using stats (i need to figure out which stats to use for start, maybe HANDS/VPIP/PFR/AF will be enough for beginning). One think that I am not into right now is watching videos = that must be changed for sure ...

      have a great day guys and thx for reading ;)

      and of course my song of the day:

    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2010 Posts: 7,291
      Nice blog sir, good to see another NL5 player here.:f_cool:

      Originally posted by Pokrovec

      2.
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($7.88)
      UTG+1 ($5)
      MP1 ($5.63)
      MP2 ($4.86)
      MP3 ($4.55)
      CO ($5.30)
      Hero (Button) ($6.64)
      SB ($5.95)
      BB ($5.66)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
      5 folds, CO bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.37) 10, J, 6 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.77) 4 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.25

      River: ($1.77) K (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero checks

      Total pot: $1.77 | Rake: $0.11

      Results:
      Hero had J, J (three of a kind, Jacks).
      CO had 7, 6 (one pair, sixes).
      Outcome: Hero won $1.66

      on the river i got scared with the flush and straight possibility and was thinking that villian set up a trap on me so i just check it was that right ?

      I'd make it $0,8 on flop and pot turn. The board is very drawy and you should bet/raise for protection and value as well.

      Originally posted by Pokrovec

      3.this one totally mess with my head :D

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($4.80)
      MP1 ($3.82)
      MP2 ($6.10)
      CO ($1.05)
      Button ($0.61)
      SB ($1.30)
      Hero (BB) ($5)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
      UTG calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.30, MP1 raises to $0.65, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

      Flop: ($2.10) 9, 2, 8 (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.70, UTG calls $1.70, MP1 raises to $3.17 (All-In), Hero calls $1.47, UTG calls $1.47

      Turn: ($11.61) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)
      Hero bets $1.18 (All-In), UTG calls $0.98 (All-In)

      River: ($13.57) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

      Total pot: $13.57 | Rake: $0.90

      Results:
      Hero had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
      UTG had Q, 10 (high card, Queen).
      MP1 had K, K (one pair, Kings).
      Outcome: Hero won $1.83, MP1 won $10.84

      how should i play hands like this when villian limps high pairs and then start to minraise them? whole game i was putting him on everything else then kings ... :( about stats: i had only 3 hands on him 100/33/-
      From my experience, limp-minraise is always either KK or AA.
    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Heya again guys !

      @Aflicor1
      Thanks for evaluation m8, that last hand with minraise = you hit the nail i need to watch out for these players that minraises preflop....


      Next couple of days i will not be able to play, I am traveling back to Slovakia for weekend (volleyball tourney awaits :D ) and today I am going to be drunk with friends of mine ... :D ()

      In the meantime I will think about little challenge for us players on microlimits, when I figure out something real I'll write to all of you guys...
      For now i know that these people want to join this chellenge:
      Pokrovec
      ExternalUseOnly
      lee200
      freespirit47


      and maybe Aflicor1?

      I think it is a good idea to help each other and little competition is always fun :D

      See you around and of course GL & HF at the tables!
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2010 Posts: 7,291
      Originally posted by Pokrovec
      Heya again guys !

      @Aflicor1
      Thanks for evaluation m8, that last hand with minraise = you hit the nail i need to watch out for these players that minraises preflop....


      Next couple of days i will not be able to play, I am traveling back to Slovakia for weekend (volleyball tourney awaits :D ) and today I am going to be drunk with friends of mine ... :D ()


      In the meantime I will think about little challenge for us players on microlimits, when I figure out something real I'll write to all of you guys...
      For now i know that these people want to join this chellenge:
      Pokrovec
      ExternalUseOnly
      lee200
      freespirit47

      and maybe Aflicor1?

      I think it is a good idea to help each other and little competition is always fun :D

      See you around and of course GL & HF at the tables!
      Yea, i hate these limp-minraise/proper raise/shove (yup, i've even seen a guy limp shoving for like 250+ bb). Raise your hands yourself, geez.:f_biggrin:

      Whats the challenge about? Well im probably in anyway, i love these kinda things.:D
    • freespirit47
      freespirit47
      Gold
      Joined: 04.11.2008 Posts: 354
      nice blog mate, keep it rollin! :)

      As for the challenge, i'm definitely in , as soon as the rules are out :)
      Looking forward to see what it's going to be about :)

      good luck with the grind
    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Hi there !!

      Yesterday i played another session with 1k hands and finally catch some badbeat :D But nothing horrible, i lost only something below 2 BI and I am really happy that i did not tilt at all :D

      Here is the usuall stuff:

      1. Hand with largest profit:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      CO ($7.41)
      Button ($5.07)
      SB ($1.88)
      Hero (BB) ($5)
      UTG ($5)
      MP1 ($6.63)
      MP2 ($3.39)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 9
      1 fold, MP1 calls $0.05, 4 folds, Hero bets $0.25, MP1 calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.52) 4, 5, 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25

      Turn: ($1.02) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.50, MP1 raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

      River: ($3.02) 10 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

      Total pot: $5.82 | Rake: $0.38

      Results:
      Hero had A, 9 (two pair, Aces and fives).
      MP1 had Q, J (one pair, fives).
      Outcome: Hero won $5.44


      2. Hand with largest loss:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP1 ($8.88)
      MP2 ($5.11)
      MP3 ($5)
      CO ($5.40)
      Button ($14.29)
      Hero (SB) ($6.20)
      BB ($5)
      UTG ($13.59)
      UTG+1 ($5.40)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
      UTG calls $0.05, 4 folds, CO calls $0.05, Button calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.30, 1 fold, Button calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.15) J, 6, J (3 players)
      Hero bets $1, UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

      Turn: ($5.15) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.20, UTG raises to $6.40, Hero calls $0.65 (All-In)

      River: ($12.85) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $12.85 | Rake: $0.85

      Results:
      Hero had Q, Q (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
      UTG had J, 10 (three of a kind, Jacks).
      Outcome: UTG won $12


      @Alficor1
      ok mate greate to have you here, more people = more fun :D

      @freespirit47
      thanx mate I am glad that someone is really reading this stuff :D
      rules will be out soon, be ready for start :D

      Okey and now for the challenge:

      Please guys write me here which limits are you playing and approximately hom much hands you play in a month. So we can decide how big sample of hands we will use.

      Challenging rule :
      biggest bb/100 hands in the same limit (e.g. NL5 for me) in 50k hands...(or maybe less,we will agree on that), for fun and couriosity it would be nice if everybody will past theirs stats and graps for example at the end of every week that we can see who is winning at the time ;) I know that we are playing different limits and someone can argue that it is not even to compare results between limits so i decided that we should create groups with the same limit.

      Guys if you have some thoughts about this dont be shine and write it down here and we can discuss it ;)

      Thanks for your attention, now i need to study some more articles :D so good luck and have fun at tables


      ooo and of course song of the day:

    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Heya guys, another 1k hands played last night and here Iam with some hands, results and finally a graph :D

      So lets start with usual stuff of the day:

      1. Hand with largest profit:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($3.63)
      Hero (BB) ($7.88)
      UTG ($2)
      UTG+1 ($5.43)
      MP1 ($5.09)
      MP2 ($6.25)
      MP3 ($6.56)
      CO ($3.50)
      Button ($5.73)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 bets $0.20, 3 folds, SB calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.15

      Flop: ($0.90) 5, 7, K (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

      Turn: ($1.90) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero calls $1

      River: ($3.90) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.10, MP2 calls $2.10

      Total pot: $8.10 | Rake: $0.54

      Results:
      Hero had 7, 7 (full house, sevens over fives).
      MP2 had K, Q (two pair, Kings and fives).
      Outcome: Hero won $7.56


      2. Hand with largest loss:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG+1 ($5.07)
      MP1 ($1.46)
      MP2 ($5)
      CO ($6.08)
      Button ($7.21)
      SB ($4.95)
      BB ($4.75)
      Hero (UTG) ($6.57)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A
      Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, 6 folds

      Flop: ($0.47) Q, 8, 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30

      Turn: ($1.07) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.80, UTG+1 calls $0.80

      River: ($2.67) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.20, UTG+1 raises to $3.77 (All-In), Hero calls $1.57

      Total pot: $10.21 | Rake: $0.68

      Results:
      Hero had Q, A (two pair, Queens and eights).
      UTG+1 had Q, Q (full house, Queens over eights).
      Outcome: UTG+1 won $9.53


      So for now i am playing NL5FR , 5000hands already played, my BR is at 167$ and here is my graph:



      and here are my stats sofar:



      as you can see I am still not very succesfull at this limit but I am studying almost every day so result must be somewhere around a corner :D

      I was finally able to find one big mistake that I am doing frquently: I just can't fold TPTK, I know it is stupid but so hard for me to understand that Iam beaten most of the time when someone reraise me ...

      For my stats: i know that PFR should be almost the same as VPIP but Iam still only limping small pairs and dont want to rush this remake of my strategy...

      Can you guys help me with the rest of the stats? Is there something very wrong?


      Final words: I am happy that I am in positive numbers and I am ready for more studying :D

      Thank you for your time and good luck and have fun !

      Picture of the day:

    • lee200
      lee200
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      Joined: 16.09.2010 Posts: 53
      I had a bit of trouble when I went up to 5NL FR too. There seem to be more competent players at this level compared to 2NL.

      I was finally able to find one big mistake that I am doing frquently: I just can't fold TPTK, I know it is stupid but so hard for me to understand that Iam beaten most of the time when someone reraise me ...
      I think I read/saw somewhere that this is probably the most common leak in players at this level. Your 'Hand with the largest loss' highlights this very well. By the river you have to ask yourself what hands could he have that would call you pre-flop, flop and turn? There aren't many you will be beating. On the river I would probably check-fold or check call a small bet by him. If you are going to bet again bet a smaller amount, so you can fold if he comes over the top of you.

      I'm no expert on stats, but I think your Agg is too high and WTSD% too low. This is probably because you are playing too many hands you have to throw away on later streets when they don't improve. I think all you need to do is tighten up your opening hand ranges and learn to fold TPTK :s_biggrin:

      Great blog, keep it up
    • Wriggers
      Wriggers
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      Joined: 21.07.2009 Posts: 3,250
      As lee200 said, you WTSD is very low, mine is hanging around the 25% mark and you are very aggressive, try and tone down the triple barreling stuff when you don't have a great hand (I'm assuming that's what it is). Also, I know how hard it is but try and bring that VPIP and PFR closer together :) I had the same problem, start raising your pocket pairs (44-88 after UTG) instead of limping, just remember that limping isn't really much use to you because not only do you have no idea where you stand against your opponent, you also miss out on the opportunity to build up the pot preflop in case you hit the flop big :) Good luck and great blog man, keep it up :D
    • Alficor1
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      Joined: 16.06.2010 Posts: 7,291
      Omg how can u have such a low VPIP? I played like a complete nit yesterday, and elephant still showed me 23/16.:s_confused: I even folded 76s from MP, which was my biggest laydown of the day.:f_biggrin:

      Originally posted by Pokrovec
      Heya guys, another 1k hands played last night and here Iam with some hands, results and finally a graph :D

      So lets start with usual stuff of the day:

      1. Hand with largest profit:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($3.63)
      Hero (BB) ($7.88)
      UTG ($2)
      UTG+1 ($5.43)
      MP1 ($5.09)
      MP2 ($6.25)
      MP3 ($6.56)
      CO ($3.50)
      Button ($5.73)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 bets $0.20, 3 folds, SB calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.15

      Flop: ($0.90) 5, 7, K (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

      Turn: ($1.90) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero calls $1

      River: ($3.90) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.10, MP2 calls $2.10

      Total pot: $8.10 | Rake: $0.54

      Results:
      Hero had 7, 7 (full house, sevens over fives).
      MP2 had K, Q (two pair, Kings and fives).
      Outcome: Hero won $7.56

      Raise flop, pot turn, shove river, say gg and take his money.:s_cool: Almost nobody's folding KQ at NL5. I'm sure you could have had his remaining 2 bucks as well.

      And the second hand.. i think theres nothing you can do on the river but call, you're getting a lot to one (im lazy to count it) on your money..

      About that TPTK stuff... i think it depends a lot on the board texture.. i think shoving AK on A83 rainbow board (esp at micros) is absolutely right, but shoving AJ of diamonds on JT9 all spades would be just plain stupid. It also depends on the villain. Agains a complete moron, im shoving A9o in the first hand, against a nit im folding AK to a raise.

      Ur graph looks exactly as mine.. grinding it up, then a cooler/bad beat/stupid call and again..

      Keep rollin man!

      Edit: oh, and limping's for little girls. :s_biggrin: See my signature.:s_biggrin:
    • lee200
      lee200
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      Originally posted by Alficor1
      oh, and limping's for little girls
      Meant to say something like that too :f_grin:
    • Pokrovec
      Pokrovec
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      Joined: 07.01.2010 Posts: 773
      Heya guys, thanks for replies, it always cheers me up if somebody is reading my stuff and then post proper answers, thanks again !!!

      @lee200:

      yep you are right i need to play this TPTK hands more passive after turn...
      i will deffinately try this attitude today

      and for stats, lately i was reading some posts here on forum and i figure out that my hand collection is to small to look for some leaks ... i will post my stats maybe after 20k hands and then look for some leaks...

      @Wriggers:

      about vpip/pfr i know about this but it cannot be repaired in couple hundred hands, i am already raising pocket pairs after UTG but i have a lot of hands on the start of NL5 when i was just limping pocket pairs and suited connectors and stuff like that just because i was reading only bronze articles at the time :D Now i am in the middle of silver articles trying to figure out my post flop game :D

      @Alficor1:

      Hehe thx mate for evaluation, I can see that you are pretty aggressive player :D i need to learn that, for now with mediocre hands i am pretty scared of reraise and cannot push that feeling away...



      Yesterday was a day without poker, the whole evening i spend playing beach volleyball with my friends because this weekend i will play on 2 tournaments so i must be ready ;) .
      But of course i was reading in tram some articles about stats and trying to figure out which stats I am going to use in my HUD.

      For start Iam going to try this setup:

      Hands / VPIP / PFR / AF / Went to Showdown
      Steal / 3 bet / fold to 3 bet / flop CBET / Fold to flop CBET

      what do you think about this setup guys? Is it enaugh for beginning or maybe too much to follow ?

      Thank you again for your concern!

      GL&HF

      Poker player of the year :D


    • lee200
      lee200
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      Joined: 16.09.2010 Posts: 53
      Those are the same stats I use in nearly the same order! I started out with less and worked my way up, but I don't think it really matters. Hovering over the 3bet gives the fold to 3 bet stat which I find quite useful when you want to punish a stealer :)
    • Wriggers
      Wriggers
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      Joined: 21.07.2009 Posts: 3,250
      I personally use:

      VPIP/PFR/Steal/Fold to Steal/3bet
      AF/Cbet flop/Fold to flop Cbet


      But yours seems completely fine :D
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
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      Joined: 16.06.2010 Posts: 7,291
      Originally posted by Pokrovec

      @Alficor1:

      Hehe thx mate for evaluation, I can see that you are pretty aggressive player :D i need to learn that, for now with mediocre hands i am pretty scared of reraise and cannot push that feeling away...

      What u mean? Sevens full a mediocre hand? Man i'd bet even my granny with sevens full on that hand.:D It's not about being aggressive, but about betting your hands properly. Like i said, i think you could have had his remaining stack too. If he's willing to put in such a big part of his stack (he gave you about 70% of what he had at the start) with KQ here, he's obv gonna give 100% as well.

      Yeah, i know that feeling, i think you just need to play a ton and then you wont feel it.. losing and winning big pots (considering stakes) helps. You'll see, its gonna get better.:f_cool:
    • BOBOsvk
      BOBOsvk
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      i personally played 40k hands without hud because i am lazy to import it :f_o: