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[NL20-NL50] nl50 Rush - T7s - flopped straight - 120bb

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($105)
      Hero ($61.40)
      UTG ($40.25)
      UTG+1 ($51.10)
      CO ($113)
      BTN ($56.20)

      Dealt to Hero 7:club: T:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

      FLOP ($3) J:spade: 8:spade: 9:club:

      SB bets $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, SB calls $5

      TURN ($18) J:spade: 8:spade: 9:club: J:heart:

      SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $86.75, Hero calls $40.40 (AI)

      RIVER ($122) J:spade: 8:spade: 9:club: J:heart: K:diamond:

      villain is 23/18/1, 96 hands
      I think we have to raise flop since it's very drawy - probably I should raise a lot more - but 3x opponents bet is what I would raise with my bluffs too so it's difficult to make it a lot more.

      I'm not sure about my turn call. I think it really depends on whether villain is ever check/shoving AJ/KJ. Against {AJ,88,99} we have 44%, needing only 33% for a breakeven call so that's fine. If he's only shoving sets here, it's an insta fold.

      I don't think he ever has bare overpairs (QQ+) here since he should be frightened of me having a Jx type hand.

      any other thoughts?
      Thanks
  • 5 replies
    • Mstlc
      Mstlc
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.03.2009 Posts: 4,676
      Can we not 3bet pre-flop against him? How often does he open his SB? I mean T7s is an okish hand but the hand is not super strong and if he opens wide I'd rather 3bet this for sure unless you've got a read on him that he raises a lot of SB's, c-bets 1 street and then gives up because then calling is fine.

      Post flop it kinda sucks but I don't think I'm getting away from this. I do think you make his turn shove range a bit too narrow thou. It's really easy for him to do this with a JT kind of hand (a lot of outs)... he might even do this with QJ (altho less likely).
    • falcone1983
      falcone1983
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.05.2009 Posts: 5,420
      Pre is w/e.

      Flop I'd make a bit bigger (also with bluffs).

      Turn I'd make a bit bigger too (you want to be able to shove the river when he calls). I don't think you can get away from it when he shoves. I mean, you have a straight BvB and he can spazz out with draws & valueshove worse.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Ok, thanks - thought the call on turn was usually ok too. Pre, we only have 96 hands so not enough to know about sb oR tendencies or to have any reads. I think 3betting maybe overplaying therefore.

      Turn bet sizing is interesting. If villain calls river is $42 and we have $40 left. Well, it's not a classic 2/3 pz shove but a shove nonetheless. I guess we could bet bigger, though, since there are some draws and even Jx has a bunch of fh outs.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      You can 3-bet pf or just call. i think both options are fine
      I wouldn´t really b/f never on the turn. He can have there enough worse hands that he is going to c/rai starting with Jx and ending TT or overpairs
    • kevvu
      kevvu
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.05.2008 Posts: 1,527
      Hey,

      I dont think he could have just some crapy Jx hands (unless he is fish). But still easyer call than looks. Like falcone said: make it bigger cause u want to be able to get it in and protect against FDs also. You are still deep.

      I think he could sometimes even ch/shove there AA,QQ, so i added all AA combos.

      Board: Js 8s 9c Jh
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 51.724% 51.10% 00.63% 652 8.00 { AA, 99-88, AJs, KJs, QTs, J8s+, AJo }
      Hand 1: 48.276% 47.65% 00.63% 608 8.00 { Tc7c

      NH