	{"id":33549,"date":"2008-02-01T15:43:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-01T15:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/fr\/strategy\/716\/"},"modified":"2026-03-13T11:38:13","modified_gmt":"2026-03-13T11:38:13","slug":"716","status":"publish","type":"strategy","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/fr\/strategy\/weekly-fixed-limit\/716\/","title":{"rendered":"Quizz - Jeu contre les TAGs + Jeu avec les tirages"},"content":{"rendered":"<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><h1>Quizz - Jeu contre les TAGs + Jeu avec les tirages<\/h1><table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" width=\"100%\" style=\"vertical-align: middle\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\">\n<h1>Introduction<\/h1>\n<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">par arschholio<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table><p>\nJe vous propose cette semaine un nouveau quizz. Les mains 1 et 2 couvrent des aspects importants du jeu contre d'autres TAGs. Les mains 3 et 4 portent sur le jeu avec les tirages contre diff&eacute;rents types d'adversaires. La main 5 porte sur un sport particulier.<\/p><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><h1>Main 1<\/h1><p class=\"emoNormal\">\nVillain: TAG 24, 20, 2.8, 35<\/p><p><strong><br>\nPreflop:<\/strong> Hero is BB with <strong>6<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\"> , <strong>8<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\">  <br>\n2 folds, <font color=\"#ff0000\">CO raises<\/font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.<\/p><p><strong><br>\nFlop:<\/strong> (4.50 SB) <strong>2<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>8<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>3<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\"> <font color=\"#0000ff\"> (2 players)<\/font><br>\nHero checks,<font color=\"#ff0000\"> CO bets<\/font>, <font color=\"#ff0000\">Hero raises<\/font>, CO calls.<\/p><p><strong><br>\nTurn: <\/strong>(4.25 BB) <strong>K<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\">  (2 players)<br>\n<font color=\"#ff0000\"><br>\nHero bets<\/font>, <font color=\"#ff0000\">CO raises<\/font>, Hero?\n<\/p><p>\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><h1>Main 2<\/h1><p class=\"emoNormal\">\nVillain: TAG 24, 20, 2.8, 35 (comme dans 1.)<\/p><p><strong><br>\nPreflop:<\/strong> Hero is CO with <strong>6<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>6<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\">  <br>\n2 folds, <font color=\"#ff0000\">Hero raises<\/font>, 2 folds, BB calls.<br>\n<strong><br>\nFlop:<\/strong> (4.50 SB) <strong>8<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>5<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>J<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\"> <font color=\"#0000ff\"> (2 players)<\/font><br>\nBB checks, <font color=\"#ff0000\">Hero bets<\/font>, <font color=\"#ff0000\">BB raises<\/font>, Was ist Heros Plan f&uuml;r die Hand?<\/p><p><strong><br>\nTurn:<\/strong> <strong>8<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(2 players)<\/font><\/p><p><strong><br>\nRiver:<\/strong> <strong>9<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\"> <font color=\"#0000ff\"> (2 players)<\/font>\n<\/p><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><h1>Main 3<\/h1><p class=\"emoNormal\">\nVillain: 50, 15, 1.5, 32<\/p><p><strong><br>\nPreflop:<\/strong> Hero is CO with <strong>8<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>9<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  <br>\n<font color=\"#ff0000\"><br>\nHero raises<\/font>, 3 folds, BB calls.<\/p><p><strong><br>\nFlop:<\/strong> (4.50 SB) <strong>T<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>7<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>3<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(2 players)<\/font><br>\n<font color=\"#ff0000\"><br>\nBB bets<\/font>, Was ist Heros Plan f&uuml;r die Main?<\/p><p><strong><br>\nTurn:<\/strong> <strong>K<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(2 players)<\/font><br>\n<strong><br>\nRiver:<\/strong> <strong>5<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(2 players)<\/font>\n<\/p><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><h1>Main 4<\/h1><p class=\"emoNormal\">\nVillain: 20, 15, 1.0, 43<\/p><p><strong><br>\nPreflop:<\/strong> Hero is CO with <strong>8<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>9<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\"> <br>\n<font color=\"#ff0000\"><br>\nHero raises<\/font>, 3 folds, BB calls.<\/p><p><strong><br>\nFlop:<\/strong> (4.50 SB) <strong>T<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>7<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>3<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(2 players)<\/font><br>\n<font color=\"#ff0000\"><br>\nBB bets<\/font>, Was ist Heros Plan f&uuml;r die Main?<\/p><p><strong><br>\nTurn: <\/strong><strong>K<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(2 players)<\/font><\/p><p><strong><br>\nRiver:<\/strong> <strong>5<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\" alt=\"\"> <font color=\"#0000ff\"> (2 players)<\/font>\n<\/p><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n&nbsp;\n<\/p><h1>Main 5<\/h1><p class=\"emoNormal\">\n<strong>Preflop:<\/strong> Hero is BU with <strong>Q<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>6<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\">  <br>\n2 folds, <font color=\"#ff0000\">Hero raises<\/font>, SB calls, BB calls.<\/p><p><strong><br>\nFlop:<\/strong> (6.00 SB) <strong>J<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>3<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\">  , <strong>K<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\" alt=\"\">  <font color=\"#0000ff\">(3 players)<\/font><br>\nSB checks, <font color=\"#ff0000\">BB checks<\/font>, <font color=\"#ff0000\">Hero bets<\/font>, <font color=\"#ff0000\">SB raises<\/font>, <font color=\"#ff0000\">BB 3-bets<\/font>, Hero ?<\/p><p><strong><br>\nTurn:<\/strong> <strong>3<\/strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" alt=\"\"> <font color=\"#0000ff\"> (3 players)<\/font>\n<\/p><p><font color=\"green\"><strong><font color=\"#000000\">&raquo; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/fr\/forum\/thread.php?threadid=6636\">R&eacute;pondez dans le topic suivant<\/a><\/font><\/strong><\/font><\/p><h1 id=\"h1_6\">R&eacute;ponses la semaine prochaine<\/h1><p><strong>Main 1<\/strong><\/p><p>Avec 68s on a presque les 35% d'equity n&eacute;cessaires contre un open-raise d'un&nbsp; TAG au CO, auxquels vient s'ajouter une bonne jouabilit&eacute;, on peut donc d&eacute;fendre profitablement.<\/p><p>Sur le flop nous touchons top paire, ce qui serait un check\/raise standard. Le sport int&eacute;ressant est ici le turn. Un K tombe et le TAG relance - easy fold ?<\/p><p>Notre kicker n'est presque jamais domin&eacute; et nous jouons tr&egrave;s rarement contre une main sup&eacute;rieure &agrave; une paire, on peut donc se donner presque 5 outs intacts. On aurait besoin d'une cote de 1:8.4, elle est de 1:7.25 pour notre call sur le turn. Si nous nous voyons derri&egrave;re nous devrions donc coucher notre main.<\/p><p>Pas de tirages possibles, l'adversaire ne tente donc pas un semi-bluff. On pourrait donc penser &ecirc;tre battu. Mais les TAG aiment bien utiliser les scarecards pour le raise for free showdown et il est bien possible que Villain n'ait que A-high avec lequel il esp&egrave;re nous faire coucher une petite paire. M&ecirc;me s'il nele fait que de temps en temps, alors notre call - qui est presque correct avec nos outs - est EV+. Nous jouons donc un pot de 8BB pour un investissement de 1BB avec <u>bet\/call turn<\/u>.<\/p><p>Si notre main ne s'am&eacute;liore pas sur la river et que Villain ne prend pas le free showdown, alors nous pouvons coucher notre main, car il n'ya plus de mains que nous battons encore.<br>\n<strong><br>\nMain 2<\/strong><\/p><p>L&agrave; encore on pourrait penser se coucher directement. M&ecirc;me ce serait trop weak. Le tableau est tr&egrave;s favorable aux tirages avec des gutshots, des tirages quinte bilat&eacute;raux, tirages couleurs qui appartiennent tout &agrave; fait &agrave; l'&eacute;ventail de d&eacute;fense de BB.<\/p><p>Si nous partons du principe qu'il joue agressivement tous ces tpyes de mains, alors notre equity est trop bonne pour un fold. Nous devrions plannifier un calldown et envisagerun fold si des cartes tombent qui d&eacute;t&eacute;riorent trop notre equity, comme la river de notre exemple -&gt; <u>call flop, call ce turn, fold cette river<\/u>.<\/p><p><strong>Main 3<\/strong><\/p><p>Avec un tirage on devrait toujours se demander si la possiblit&eacute; existe de faire se coucher de meilleures mains. Est-ce le cas ici ? Oui !<\/p><p>Cet adversaire pr&eacute;sente plusieurs caract&eacute;ristiques qui parlent en faveur d'un semi-bluff :<\/p><ul>\n<li>Il a un large &eacute;ventail, il peut donc avoir toutes sortes de mains faibles telles que bottom paire, petite pocket ou A-high.<\/li>\n<li>Il est relativement agressif, il va donc &eacute;galement donker avec des mains faibles, bluffs, semi-bluffs.<\/li>\n<li>Il n'a pas un WTS si &eacute;lev&eacute;, il est donc capable de coucher des mains faites trop faibles, de m&ecirc;me que des bluffs en cas de riposte adverse.<\/li>\n<\/ul><p>Nous allons donc jouer la m&ecirc;me ligne que nous aurions jou&eacute; avec un T (-&gt;balancing) et montrer ainsi le maximum de force : <u>call flop, raise turn, voire raise flop, bet turn<\/u>.<\/p><p>Sans am&eacute;lioration &agrave;la river nous devons miser de nouveau avec ces deux lignes car le pot est suffisamment gros et Villain pourrait avoir un meilleur tirage, qu'il va cependant devoir coucher sur la river si nous misons.<br>\n<strong><br>\nMain 4<\/strong><\/p><p>Contre cet adversaire un semi-bluff n'a pas de sens. Il est tight-passif et va beaucoup &agrave; l'abattage. C'est le type d'adversaire qui va toujours &agrave; l'abattage s'il a eu l'initiative &agrave; un moment du coup, initiative qu'il ne prend que s'il a une main valable.<\/p><p>Il en r&eacute;sulte la ligne suivante -&gt; <u>call flop, call turn, fold river<\/u>.<\/p><p>Pourquoi pas de freecard raise ? Parce que pour &eacute;conomiser parfois 1SB on risque de perdre 1 ou 2 SB si Villain 3-bet le flop ou donk le turn. Cela n'en vaut donc pas la peine.<\/p><p>\n<strong>Main 5<\/strong><\/p><p>Il est vraiment probable que nous sommes les seuls &agrave; &ecirc;tre sur la couleur dans cette main et nous sommes donc l&eacute;g&egrave;rement EV+ contre 2 adversaires. Bien s&ucirc;r la rake va l'annluer mais nous devrions capper sur le flop en ayant la position. Le Sb suppl&eacute;mentaire est totalement gratuit &eacute;tant donn&eacute; qu'il e&acute;quivaut exactement &agrave; l'equity moyenne. Si nous b&eacute;n&eacute;ficions de temps en temps d'une carte grautuite sur le turn &eacute;conomisant ainsi 1BB, cela vaut le coup -&gt; <u>cap flop, c\/b turn<\/u>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quizz - Jeu contre les TAGs + Jeu avec les tirages Introduction par arschholio Je vous propose cette semaine un [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":""},"strategy_category":[71],"strategy_level":[30],"class_list":["post-33549","strategy","type-strategy","status-publish","hentry","strategy_category-fixed-limit-fixed-limit"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Quizz - Jeu contre les TAGs + Jeu avec les tirages - PokerStrategy FR<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"PokerStrategy.com, la plus grande \u00e9cole de poker en ligne au monde. 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