	{"id":33631,"date":"2008-04-04T14:53:00","date_gmt":"2008-04-04T14:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/fr\/strategy\/456\/"},"modified":"2026-03-13T11:39:34","modified_gmt":"2026-03-13T11:39:34","slug":"456","status":"publish","type":"strategy","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/fr\/strategy\/weekly-no-limit\/456\/","title":{"rendered":"Quizz SPT - Donkbets au flop"},"content":{"rendered":"<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><h1>Quizz SPT - Donkbets au flop<\/h1><table style=\"vertical-align: middle\" border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\">\n<h1>Introduction<br>\n\t\t\t<\/h1>\n<p>\n\t\t\t<\/p><\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">par karlo123<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nIl nous arrive r&eacute;guli&egrave;rement<br>\nd'&ecirc;tre confront&eacute;s &agrave; un donkbet apr&egrave;s avoir<br>\nrelanc&eacute; pr&eacute;flop. La d&eacute;cision correcte d&eacute;pend<br>\nsouvent des stats de l'adversaire. Nous nous int&eacute;resser d'un<br>\npeu plus pr&egrave;s comment &agrave; la bonne fa&ccedil;on de<br>\nr&eacute;agir.\n<\/p><h1><b>Main 1<\/b><\/h1><p><b>Preflop:<\/b> Hero is MP2 with <b>9<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>9<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"><br>\n<i><span style=\"color: grey\">UTG folds<\/span><\/i>, UTG+1 calls $2.00,<i><span style=\"color: grey\"> 2 folds<\/span><\/i>, <span style=\"color: red\">Hero raises to $10.00<\/span>, <i><span style=\"color: grey\">3 folds<\/span><\/i>,SB calls $9.00, <i><span style=\"color: grey\">2 folds<\/span><\/i>.<\/p><p><b>Flop:<\/b> ($24.00) <b>K<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>T<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>2<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> <span style=\"color: blue\">(2 players)<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: red\">SB bets $24<\/span>, Hero ???<\/p><p><\/p><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nTout le monde s'est certainement d&eacute;j&agrave;<br>\nretrouv&eacute; dans cette situation. Nous relan&ccedil;ons pr&eacute;flop<br>\navec une main marginale pour nous retrouver en heads-up sur un flop<br>\nunicolor. Nous n'avons ni top paire, ni overpaire, ni la couleur max.<br>\nD'apr&egrave;s lal SPT il faudrait ici se coucher.<\/p><p>Qu'en<br>\npensez-vous ? Fodl ou call ? (le tapis de Hero est alors de 24 $).\n<\/p><h1><b>Main 2<\/b><\/h1><p><b>Preflop:<\/b> Hero is BU with <b>T<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>T<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"><br>\n<i><span style=\"color: grey\">UTG folds<\/span><\/i>, UTG+1 calls $2,00, <i><span style=\"color: grey\">2 folds<\/span><\/i>, <span style=\"color: red\">Hero raises to $10,00<\/span>, <i><span style=\"color: grey\">5 folds<\/span><\/i>, UTG+1 calls $8,00.<\/p><p><b>Flop:<\/b> ($23,00) <b>7<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>8<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>Q<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> <span style=\"color: blue\">(2 players)<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: red\">UTG+1 bets $8<\/span>, Hero ???<\/p><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nComment doit r&eacute;agir Hero ? Il a<br>\nun tapis standard de 20 BB.\n<\/p><h1><b>Main 3<\/b><\/h1><p>Hero: 17 BB<\/p><p><b>Preflop:<\/b> Hero is BU with <b>J<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\">, <b>J<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\"><br>\n<span style=\"color: #666666\"><i>3 folds<\/i><\/span>, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, <span style=\"color: #ff0000\">Hero raises to $6<\/span>, <span style=\"color: #666666\"><i>2 folds<\/i><\/span>, MP3 calls $5, <span style=\"color: #666666\"><i>1 folds<\/i><\/span>.<\/p><p><b>Flop:<\/b> ($14.50) <b>2<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\">, <b>A<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\">, <b>4<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"> <span style=\"color: #0000ff\">(2 players)<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000\">MP3 bets $46.85 (All-In)<\/span>, Hero ???<\/p><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\n<span lang=\"en-US\">La m&ecirc;me<br>\nsituation. Call ou fold ?<\/span>\n<\/p><h1><b>Main 4<\/b><\/h1><p>Hero: 18 BB<\/p><p><b>Pre-flop:<\/b> (<i>8 players<\/i>) Hero is Button with <b>K<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"><b> A<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"><b> <\/b><br>\n<i>5 folds<\/i>, <span style=\"color: #cc0000\">Hero raises to $3<\/span>, SB folds, BB calls.<\/p><p><b>Flop:<\/b> <b>5<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"><b> 6<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"><b> 6<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> (<i>$6.5, 2 players<\/i>)<br>\n<span style=\"color: #cc0000\">BB bets $4<\/span>, Hero ??? <\/p><p>Villian: (35\/15\/5\/33) Fold BB To Steal: 75<\/p><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\n<span lang=\"en-US\">Comment r&eacute;agir<br>\nau bet avec ces stats ?<\/span>\n<\/p><h1><b>Main 5<\/b><\/h1><p>Hero: 8,00<\/p><p><b>Preflop:<\/b> Hero is CO with <b>A<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\">, <b>K<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\"><br>\n<i><span style=\"color: grey\">2 folds<\/span><\/i>, MP1 calls $0,50, MP2 calls $0,50,<i><span style=\"color: grey\">MP 3<\/span><\/i>, <span style=\"color: red\">Hero raises to $3,00<\/span>, <i><span style=\"color: grey\">3 folds<\/span><\/i>, MP1 calls $2,50, <i><span style=\"color: grey\">MP 2 folds<\/span><\/i>.<\/p><p><b>Flop:<\/b> ($6,90) <b>2<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\">, <b>Q<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\">, <b>T<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> <span style=\"color: blue\">(2 players)<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: red\">MP1 bets $7,50<\/span>, Hero ???<\/p><p><\/p><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nIci nous avons 2 overcards. Comment<br>\ndoit r&eacute;agir Hero au contibet ?\n<\/p><p><\/p><h1>R&eacute;ponses<\/h1><p><span style=\"color: #000000\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000\"><br>\n<br>\n<\/span><\/p><h2><span style=\"color: #000000\">Mains 1-3<\/span><\/h2><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nSur toutes ces mains nous avons un<br>\ntirage couleur. Cependant il ne s'agit pas de la couleur max (sinon<br>\n&ccedil;a serait trop facile). Il faut ajouter que nous n'avons pas<br>\nla top paire mais une simple paire, et que sur 2 des mains nous avons<br>\nde plus un tirage quinte backdoor. La question est &agrave; chaque<br>\nfois push or fold, pas question de call ici.<\/p><p>Sur ces 3 mains<br>\nla r&eacute;ponse est push :<\/p><p>L'adversaire n'aura que rarement,<br>\net une meilleure paire, et un meilleur tirage couleur, il est donc<br>\n&eacute;vident que nous avons, soit un bon tirage, soit une main<br>\nfaite. Pour les mains 1 et 2 il ne s'agit m&ecirc;me que d'un tirage<br>\nfaible car notre tirage couleur ne contient qu'une petite carte, mais<br>\ns'ajoutent &agrave; cela un tirage quinte backdoor, et pour la main 2<br>\nde la fold equity. C'est de toute fa&ccedil;on suffisant pour se<br>\nmettre all-in.<\/p><p>On peut tout &agrave; fait examiner chacune de<br>\nces situations en utilisant l'Equilator, et nous obtiendrons presque<br>\ntoujours l'equity suffisante face &agrave; l'&eacute;ventail adverse.<br>\nVient s'ajouter &agrave; cela parfois la fold equity, ce qui peut<br>\nm&ecirc;me rendre ce move tr&egrave;s profitable.<\/p><p>A titre<br>\nd'exemple sur la main 1, notre equity face &agrave; quelques mains de<br>\nVillain :<\/p><p>Main de Villain \/ Notre equity<br>\nA<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"> K<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" height=\"12\" width=\"12\"> 43% (TPTK)<br>\nK<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/diamond.png\" height=\"12\" width=\"12\"><br>\nT<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\"> 40% (2Pair)<br>\nQ<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"> J<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\"> 55% (OESD)<br>\nA<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> Q<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/heart.png\"> 41% (FD)<br>\nJ<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> T<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/spade.png\"> 7%<br>\n(Pair+FD)<br>\nA<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> Q<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/smileys\/club.png\"> 3% (Flush)<\/p><p>Du fait de la cote du pot nous<br>\navons besoin d'une equity &gt; 33,3%<\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000\"><\/span><\/p><p>\n<\/p><h2><span style=\"color: #000000\">Main 4<\/span><\/h2><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nEtant donn&eacute; que le flop ne donne<br>\nvraiment pas l'impression qu'on a touch&eacute; quelque chose, au<br>\nregard de ses stats Villain va souvent donker. Si nous observons le<br>\n'Fold to steal' de Villain, nous voyons qu'il suit avec 25% de ses<br>\nmains. Avec les meilleures mains telles que JJ-AA il sur-relancera<br>\nsouvent. Nous serons donc tr&egrave;s souvent encore devant sur le<br>\nflop, et dans le cas contraire nous avons encore 6 outs pour la<br>\nriver. M&ecirc;me en les d&eacute;comptant je me donne ici 4-5<br>\nouts.<\/p><p>C'est pourquoi je pense qu'un semi-bluff avec un push<br>\nest ici EV+.<\/p><p>Stove nous montre que contre un &eacute;ventail<br>\nde 25% nous sommes devant &agrave; 66% sur ce flop. Si de plus nous<br>\nretirons AA-JJ, notre equity est encore plus &eacute;lev&eacute;e. Et<br>\nm&ecirc;me si nous retirons de cet &eacute;ventail les mains avec<br>\nlesquelles Villain ne miserait pas, c'est encore EV+. Il faut<br>\ncependant que les stats dont nous disposons soient tr&egrave;s<br>\nfiables, on a besoin ici d'au moins 1k mains.\n<\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000\"><\/span><\/p><p><\/p><h2><span style=\"color: #000000\">Main 5<\/span><\/h2><p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm\">\nNous avons ici un tapis de 8 $. Etant<br>\ndonn&eacute; que nous avons d&eacute;j&agrave; mis 3 $ dans le flop<br>\npr&eacute;flop, nous n'avons que 5 $ &agrave; payer.<\/p><p>cote du<br>\npot : 6,9+5 = 11,9:5 ==&gt; 2,38:1.<\/p><p>Il nous faut environ 30%<br>\nd'equity pour payer de fa&ccedil;on profitable. Nous avons 7 outs en<br>\nd&eacute;comptant les overcards &agrave; 3 outs et le gutshot &agrave;<br>\n4 outs. Viennent s'ajouter des outs avec la couleur backdoor. Avec le<br>\nK nous pouvons nous donner 1-1.5 outs, et notre call est donc<br>\njustifi&eacute; car 8 outs nous donnent une equity de 31%.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quizz SPT - Donkbets au flop Introduction par karlo123 Il nous arrive r&eacute;guli&egrave;rement d'&ecirc;tre confront&eacute;s &agrave; un donkbet apr&egrave;s avoir [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":""},"strategy_category":[70],"strategy_level":[29],"class_list":["post-33631","strategy","type-strategy","status-publish","hentry","strategy_category-no-limit-bss"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Quizz SPT - Donkbets au flop - PokerStrategy FR<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"PokerStrategy.com, la plus grande \u00e9cole de poker en ligne au monde. 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