	{"id":36164,"date":"2018-01-28T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-01-28T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/hu\/panzre-valthata%c2%b3-csomagok-vagy-ka%c2%b6teleza-rasztvatel\/"},"modified":"2026-06-09T13:37:08","modified_gmt":"2026-06-09T13:37:08","slug":"panzre-valthata%c2%b3-csomagok-vagy-ka%c2%b6teleza-rasztvatel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/hu\/news\/world-of-poker\/P%C3%83nzre-v%C3%83lthat%C3%83%C2%B3-csomagok-vagy-k%C3%83telez%C3%85-r%C3%83sztv%C3%83tel_103074\/","title":{"rendered":"P\u00e9nzre v\u00e1lthat\u00f3 csomagok, vagy k\u00f6telez\u0151 r\u00e9sztv\u00e9tel?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><p><br>\n<br>\n<\/p><br><br><body>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulRight\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2015\/06\/24\/Chris-Moneymaker-WSOP-Win.jpg\" alt=\"Chris Moneymaker WSOP vil&aacute;gbajnok\" title=\"\"><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\">Chris Moneymakernek indulnia kellett a WSOP f&#337;verseny&eacute;n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>A szatellit r&eacute;g&oacute;ta az egyik kedvenc p&oacute;kerform&aacute;tumom (k&uuml;l&ouml;nc vagyok), &eacute;s mivel a k&ouml;zelm&uacute;ltban &uacute;jra nekiugrottam a j&aacute;t&eacute;knak, id&eacute;n t&ouml;bb ilyen t&eacute;m&aacute;j&uacute; &iacute;r&aacute;sra is sz&aacute;m&iacute;thattok.<\/p>\n<p>Chris Moneymaker &uacute;gy lett vil&aacute;gbajnok, hogy nem v&aacute;lthatta p&eacute;nzre az online selejtez&#337;n nyert csomagot (nem akart kijutni a f&#337;versenyre, azt hitte sima freezeouton j&aacute;tszik). K&eacute;t v&aacute;laszt&aacute;sa volt: <strong>vagy lemond a nyerem&eacute;nyr&#337;l, vagy indul a f&#337;versenyen.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A k&uuml;l&ouml;nb&ouml;z&#337; p&oacute;kerszolg&aacute;ltat&oacute;k h&aacute;romf&eacute;le m&oacute;don szab&aacute;lyozz&aacute;k a selejtez&#337;n nyerhet&#337; seatek &eacute;s csomagok felhaszn&aacute;l&aacute;s&aacute;t, &eacute;s mai &iacute;r&aacute;somban ezeken fogok v&eacute;gigmenni.<\/p>\n<h2>Versenydoll&aacute;rok (T$)<\/h2>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulRight\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2018\/01\/26\/pokerstars_mtt.jpg\" alt=\"PokerStars MTT\" title=\"\"><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\">A PokerStarsn&aacute;l T$-ra v&aacute;lhatod a megnyert seatet<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Elterjedt gyakorlat, hogy a p&oacute;kerterem <strong>megengedje a c&eacute;lversenyr&#337;l t&ouml;rt&eacute;n&#337; leiratkoz&aacute;st, hogy a j&aacute;t&eacute;kos versenydoll&aacute;rban vehesse fel a nyerem&eacute;nyt<\/strong>. Ez nem egyenl&#337; a k&eacute;szp&eacute;nzzel, mert a j&aacute;t&eacute;kos csak m&aacute;s versenyeken tudja felhaszn&aacute;lni. A PokerStars ezt pillantnyilag a legt&ouml;bb olyan selejtez&#337;n engedi, ahol a c&eacute;lverseny online event, &eacute;s tiltja, ahol a c&eacute;lverseny live event.<\/p>\n<p>A felhaszn&aacute;l&oacute; sz&aacute;m&aacute;ra ez a m&oacute;dszer rugalmass&aacute;got teremt, &eacute;s mivel a gy&#337;ztesek nincsenek arra k&eacute;nyszer&iacute;tve, hogy induljanak a c&eacute;lversenyen, t&ouml;bb j&aacute;t&eacute;kos vesz r&eacute;szt a selejtez&#337;k&ouml;n.<\/p>\n<p>A dolog h&aacute;tul&uuml;t&#337;je azonban az, hogy a c&eacute;lversenyen kevesebben lesznek a tervezettn&eacute;l, mivel alapvet&#337;en l&eacute;tezik egy olyan j&aacute;t&eacute;kosr&eacute;teg, akik csak a T$-ok&eacute;rt &uuml;lnek le j&aacute;tszani. Tudom, mert &eacute;n is &iacute;gy csin&aacute;lom. J&aacute;t&eacute;kst&iacute;lusom passzol ezekhez a versenyekhez, a mez&#337;ny &aacute;ltal&aacute;ban gyenge, &eacute;s ha nem lenn&eacute;nek a satellitte regek, akkor m&eacute;g gyeng&eacute;bb lenne.<\/p>\n<p>&Iacute;gy teh&aacute;t nem csak a c&eacute;lversenyen lesz kevesebb az indul&oacute;, az izgalmas nagy versenyekre v&aacute;gy&oacute; hobbij&aacute;t&eacute;kos is kevesebb lesz a mez&#337;nyben. M&aacute;r mondanom sem kell, hogy a sikeres live eventek marketingj&eacute;nek a motorj&aacute;r&oacute;l besz&eacute;lek, &aacute;ltaluk lesz verhet&#337;bb a mez&#337;ny is a profik sz&aacute;m&aacute;ra.<\/p>\n<p>Sok szolg&aacute;ltat&oacute; akkor kezd el T$-t fizetni, ha az adott j&aacute;t&eacute;kos m&aacute;r nyert egy csomagot ugyanarra a c&eacute;lversenyre. A PokerStars live eventekhez rendezett selejtez&#337;in azon olyan j&aacute;t&eacute;kos m&aacute;r indulhat, aki m&aacute;r nyert egy oda csomagot.<\/p>\n<h2>K&ouml;telez&#337; r&eacute;szv&eacute;tel<\/h2>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulRight\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2018\/01\/26\/596151-marti-roca-888.jpg\" alt=\"WSOPE bajnok Marti Roca De Torres \" title=\"\"><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\">Marti Roca De Torres, a WSOPE legut&oacute;bbi bajnoka, sem v&aacute;lthatta p&eacute;nzre a csomagot<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Sok p&oacute;kerterem rendez olyan selejtez&#337;ket, <strong>ahol nem engedi a nyerem&eacute;ny p&eacute;nzre v&aacute;lt&aacute;s&aacute;t<\/strong>, &iacute;gy a j&aacute;t&eacute;kosnak gyakorlatig r&eacute;szt kell vennie az c&eacute;leventen, ha nem akar lemondani a nyerem&eacute;nyr&#337;l. A PokerStars &eacute;s az laz&aacute;bb selejtez&#337;ir&#337;l h&iacute;res partypoker is szervez ilyen versenyeket, jellemz&#337;en nagy live eventjeikhez.<\/p>\n<p>A T$-os selejtez&#337;kn&eacute;l le&iacute;rt probl&eacute;m&aacute;k itt megsz&#369;nnek. Csak olyan j&aacute;t&eacute;kos kap lehet&#337;s&eacute;get p&eacute;ld&aacute;ul az Irish Open r&eacute;szv&eacute;telre, aki t&eacute;nyleg ott akar j&aacute;tszani, a grinderek pedig ker&uuml;lik az ilyen selejtez&#337;ket. A j&aacute;t&eacute;kos sz&aacute;m&aacute;ra ez persze rugalmatlan k&ouml;r&uuml;lm&eacute;nyeket jelent, &eacute;s a selejtez&#337;k mez&#337;nyei is sokkal kisebbek lesznek.<\/p>\n<p>Mindazon&aacute;ltal, ez sem mindig rossz, a satellite-ek GTD-je ugyanis gyakran &ouml;nmag&aacute;ban is el&eacute;g b&#337;kez&#369;, ami a kevesebb &eacute;rdekl&#337;d&eacute;s miatt &aacute;ltal&aacute;ban overlayt keletkeztet. Sz&oacute;val, ha sz&iacute;vesen induln&aacute;l ilyen versenyeken, a party mostan&aacute;ban j&oacute; v&aacute;laszt&aacute;s, &eacute;s mivel a T$-grinderek is t&aacute;vol maradnak, sok kikapcsol&oacute;dni v&aacute;gy&oacute; hobbij&aacute;t&eacute;kosok k&ouml;z&ouml;tt p&oacute;kerezhetsz.<\/p>\n<h2>Token\/steps satellites<\/h2>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulRight\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2018\/01\/26\/partypoker_token.png\" alt=\"partypoker token\" title=\"\"><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\">A partypoker egy token rendszerrel dolgozik<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>T&ouml;bb oldalon tal&aacute;lkoztam m&aacute;r a kett&#337; kever&eacute;k&eacute;vel is, amikor <strong>az&eacute;rt indulunk egy selejtez&#337;n, hogy bel&eacute;p&#337;t nyerj&uuml;nk egy magasabb buy-in szinttel zajl&oacute; selejtez&#337;re, ahol azt&aacute;n siker eset&eacute;n t&ouml;bb c&eacute;lverseny k&ouml;z&uuml;l is v&aacute;laszthatunk<\/strong>. A partypoker pillanatnyilag ezzel dolgozik, a PokerStars &amp; Full Tilt pedig ennek egy v&aacute;ltozat&aacute;t m&#369;k&ouml;dtette (p&eacute;ld&aacute;ul a PokerStars Steps-SnG versenyek).<\/p>\n<p>P&eacute;ld&aacute;ul egy 5,5$-os buy-innal nyersz egy 22$-os tokent, amit egy 22$-os MTT-n vagy egy 22$-os satellite-en tudsz felhaszn&aacute;lni. Ut&oacute;bbin 215$-os tokent nyerhetsz, &eacute;s &iacute;gy tov&aacute;bb<\/p>\n<p>Ez a megold&aacute;s n&ouml;veli a selejtez&#337;k l&eacute;tsz&aacute;mait, mert rugalmass&aacute; teszi ezeket a j&aacute;t&eacute;kosok sz&aacute;m&aacute;ra. El&#337;fordulhat, hogy te az Irish Openre szeretn&eacute;l bejutni, az egyik ellenf&eacute;l pedig a terem valamelyik nagy vas&aacute;rnapi verseny&eacute;re, m&eacute;gis ugyanazon a selejtez&#337;n j&aacute;tszatok.<\/p>\n<p>A szolg&aacute;ltat&oacute;k sz&aacute;m&aacute;ra ez m&eacute;g nem garant&aacute;lja, hogy feltelnek a felk&iacute;n&aacute;lt nagy &eacute;l&#337; versenyek. Ha &eacute;pp senki nem szeretne a spanyol live eventen indulni, de az olaszorsz&aacute;gin ann&aacute;l ink&aacute;bb, akkor mindenki ennek megfelel&#337;en pr&oacute;b&aacute;lja majd bev&aacute;ltani a tokenjeit.<\/p>\n<p>T&ouml;k&eacute;letes megold&aacute;st tal&aacute;lni szinte lehetetlen. <strong>Ha t&uacute;l rugalmas a rendszer, a selejtez&#337;k tov&aacute;bbjuttat&oacute; jellege veszik el<\/strong>, mivel mindenki a p&eacute;nzre hajt ink&aacute;bb. <strong>Rugalmatlans&aacute;g eset&eacute;n nem lesz el&eacute;g indul&oacute;, &eacute;s overlay keletkezik<\/strong>. Satellite regk&eacute;nt arra v&aacute;gyn&eacute;k, hogy mindenhol a T$-os rendszerben j&aacute;tszhassak, de r&aacute; kell j&ouml;nn&ouml;m, hogy akkor a j&aacute;t&eacute;k is sokkal kem&eacute;nyebb lenne. A tokenes megk&ouml;zel&iacute;t&eacute;st m&#369;k&ouml;d&#337; kompromisszumnak tartom. 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