{"id":38826,"date":"2021-06-26T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-06-26T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/czy-mozna-odmawiac-dealom-na-bubble\/"},"modified":"2026-03-03T16:59:24","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T16:59:24","slug":"czy-mozna-odmawiac-dealom-na-bubble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/news\/content\/Czy-mo%C5%BCna-odmawia%C4%87-dealom-na-bubble_118410\/","title":{"rendered":"Czy mo\u017cna odmawia\u0107 dealom na bubble?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n


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Poker live wraca do normalności na wielu kontynentach, a ja zauważyłem ostatnio na Twitterze narzekania, że ludzie coraz częściej są przymuszani do ugadywania się na bubble. Te rodzaje deali polegają na tym, że pozostali w turnieju gracze zgadzają się na to, by złożyć się na opłacenie dodatkowego mincasha\/buy-ina lub wzięcie na ten cel pieniędzy ze środków przeznaczonych na nagrodę za pierwsze miejsce. <\/p>\n

To naprawdę powszechna praktyka, szczególnie w lokalnych kasynach, gdzie regularsi wspólnie nakładają presję społeczną na innych graczy. Takie deale sprawiają, że gra przebiega w lepszej atmosferze, oczywiście o ile się im nie odmówi, bo wtedy może zrobić się bardzo nieprzyjemnie. <\/p>\n

Dara O'Kearney i ja pracujemy aktualnie nad nową, trzecią już książką, tym razem o ICM i szczegółowo omawiamy w niej branie deali. Przyglądamy się wadom i zaletom deali na bubble, by pomóc wam określić, kiedy są one opłacalne. <\/p>\n

Przyjrzyjmy się przykładowi. Mamy MTT za 200 $, w którym zostało 15 graczy. W tabeli poniżej rozpisaliśmy wielkości ich stacków, ICM equity oraz pieniądze, które mogliby potencjalnie wygrać, jeśli ukończyliby na zajmowanej aktualnie pozycji:<\/p>\n

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Gracz<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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Potencjalny Payout<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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Żetony<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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Equity<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 1<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$6,000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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100 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$3,006.47<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 2<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$4,700<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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90 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,852.84<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 3<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$3,600<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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80 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,684.81<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 4<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,900<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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70 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,500.14<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 5<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,300<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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60 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,296.13<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 6<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$1,900<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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50 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,069.40<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 7<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$1,300<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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50 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$2,069.40<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 8<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$1,000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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40 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$1,815.55<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 9<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$800<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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30 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$1,528.01<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 10<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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30 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,528.01<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 11<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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20 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,192.91<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 12<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

20 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,192.91<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 13<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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10 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$754.47<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 14<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

10 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$754.47<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 15<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

<\/td>\n\n

10 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$754.47<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

A tak będzie to wyglądać, kiedy uzgodniony zostanie deal, w ramach którego 15. miejsce otrzymuje 500 $ mincashu, zabrane z nagrody za pierwsze miejsce:<\/p>\n

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Gracz<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

Potencjalny Payout<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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Żetony<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

Equity<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 1<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$5,500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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100 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,931.99<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 2<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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$4,700<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

90 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,785.92<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

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Player 3<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$3,600<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

80 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,625.52<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 4<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,900<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

70 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,448.65<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 5<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,300<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

60 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,252.72<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 6<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,900<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

50 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,034.85<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 7<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,300<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

50 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$2,034.85<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 8<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

40 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,791.55<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 9<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$800<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

30 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,519.26<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 10<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

30 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,519.26<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 11<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

20 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,214.67<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 12<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

20 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$1,214.67<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 13<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

10 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$875.36<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 14<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

10,000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$875.36<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\n

Player 15<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$500<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

10 000<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

\n

$875.36<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n

Jak widać, najwięcej zyskują na tym short stacki, szczególnie gracz 15, którego ogólne equity wzrasta o 120,86 $. W ramach takiego deala, equity rośnie całej ostatniej piątce. <\/p>\n

Czołowa dziesiątka jest za to poszkodowana pod kątem equity. Chip leader obrywa najbardziej, szczególnie w sytuacji, kiedy pieniądze usuwa się z nagrody za pierwsze miejsce, ale niektórych z was może zaskoczyć to, że wszyscy inni także odczuwają negatywne skutki deala. <\/strong><\/p>\n

Nie zmarnuj bubble<\/h2>\n
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Nie poddawaj się presji społecznej, jeśli masz duży stack<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Takiego deala powinno się odmawiać nie tylko ze względu na straty w equity. Dla dobrych graczy bubble to ten etap turnieju, w którym mogą gromadzić najwięcej żetonów <\/strong>(szczególnie od desperatów, próbujących się umówić na deala). Bubble to jedyny moment, w którym big stack może sobie praktycznie zagwarantować miejsce w top 3, o ile potrafi dobrze wywierać presję na swoich oponentach. <\/p>\n

Z drugiej strony, short stacki absolutnie powinny szukać takiego deala, a i ci ze średnim stanem posiadania żetonów, nawet jeśli tracą trochę equity, mogą na tym skorzystać. Gdy są kryci przy agresywnym stole na bubble, nie mogą zagrać zbyt wielu rozdań i przez ciągłe pasowanie i oddawanie żetonów, mogą stracić dużo więcej equity, niż w ramach deala. <\/p>\n

Dealom na bubble towarzyszy coś nieprzyjemnego z punktu widzenia społecznego, szczególnie w lokalnych kasynach, gdzie wielu graczy łączy się w nakładaniu presji na duże stacki. O ile nie boisz się o swoje bezpieczeństwo, presja społeczna nie powinna wpływać na twoje decyzje przy stole. Jeśli chcesz uniknąć niemiłych sytuacji, Dara radzi, by mówić, że ma się backera, który nie zgadza się na deala<\/strong>. W ten sposób to twój fikcyjny sponsor staje się tym złym, a nie ty.<\/p>\n

Bubble to najważniejsza faza turnieju pokerowego i nie powinieneś zmarnować tych kilku okazji, gdy dotrzesz tam z dużym stackiem. Nie poddawaj się presji. <\/p>\n

Mieliście okazję do zawarcia takiego deala? Jak się wtedy zachowaliście:<\/em><\/p>\n\n<\/div>\n


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