	{"id":40811,"date":"2023-12-10T13:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-10T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/self-study-dlaczego-nie-check-raiseujemy-z-nutsowym-flush-drawem\/"},"modified":"2026-03-03T19:05:24","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T19:05:24","slug":"self-study-dlaczego-nie-check-raiseujemy-z-nutsowym-flush-drawem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/news\/content\/Self-Study-Dlaczego-nie-check-raise-ujemy-z-nutsowym-flush-drawem_129523\/","title":{"rendered":"Self Study: Dlaczego nie check\/raise'ujemy z nutsowym flush drawem?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><p><br>\n<br>\n<\/p><br><br><body>\n<p><em>W serii self study Barry Carter pokazuje, jak sam pr&oacute;bowa&#322; rozwi&#261;za&#263; pokerowy problem, a nast&#281;pnie konsultuje si&#281; z trenerem lub solverem, aby dosta&#263; feedback na temat swojego toku my&#347;lenia. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>W ubieg&#322;ym tygodniu zagra&#322;em rozdanie, w kt&oacute;rym czu&#322;em, &#380;e najlepszy b&#281;dzie check\/raise z nutsowym flush drawem, ale solver u&#347;wiadomi&#322; mnie, &#380;e si&#281; myl&#281;. Na efektywnych 40bb Button podbi&#322;, a ja sprawdzi&#322;em z Big Blinda A&spades;9&spades;.<\/p>\n<p>Spad&#322; flop K&spades;6&spades;5&hearts;. Spodziewa&#322;em si&#281;, &#380;e Button b&#281;dzie bardzo cz&#281;sto betowa&#322; board K-high, wi&#281;c jest to idealny spot do check\/raise'u. Je&#347;li zostaniemy sprawdzeni, mamy &#347;wietne outy, kt&oacute;rymi mog&#261; by&#263; r&oacute;wnie&#380; asy. Do tego blokujemy AK i K9.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/l\/gto-wizard\/download\/\">GTO Wizard<\/a><\/strong> jednak nigdy w tym spocie nie check\/raise'uje. Ma&#322;o tego, nie check\/raise'uje &#380;adnej kombinacji nutsowego drawa do koloru. Blefami s&#261; tutaj r&#281;ce, takie jak Q&spades;7&spades; czy 7&spades;3&spades; , kt&oacute;re s&#261; s&#322;absze, ale tak&#380;e maj&#261; jakie&#347; blockery\/potencja&#322; stritowy. Q&spades;7&spades; blokuje na przyk&#322;ad KQ, a mo&#380;e te&#380; trafi&#263; runner runner do strita.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2023\/12\/06\/Screenshot_2023-12-06_120953.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" caption=\"false\"><figcaption>Czerowny = Raise, Zielony = Call, Niebieski = Fold<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Stworzy&#322;em teori&#281;, &#380;e A&spades;9&spades; ma wystarczaj&#261;co du&#380;o showdown value przeciwko otwarciu Buttona, &#380;e najlepiej dzia&#322;a jako bluff catcher. Aby przetestowa&#263; t&#281; teori&#281;, odtworzy&#322;em ten sam spot, ale teraz jako otwieraj&#261;cego ustawi&#322;em Hijacka. Zakres check\/raise'a by&#322; podobny, wi&#281;c w nast&#281;pnej pr&oacute;bie otwarcie powierzy&#322;em graczowi z Under-The-Gun i dopiero wtedy moja r&#281;ka zacz&#281;&#322;a by&#263; wykorzystywana jako check\/raise, aczkolwiek nadal bardzo rzadko.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2023\/12\/06\/Screenshot_2023-12-06_121600.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" caption=\"false\"><figcaption>Czerwony = Raise, Zielony = Call, Niebieski = Fold<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Przetestowa&#322;em teori&#281; jeszcze raz, w spocie Button vs Big Blind, ale tym razem ustawi&#322;em flop jako K&spades;6&hearts;5&clubs;. Te same karty, ale bez flush drawa. Teraz najcz&#281;stszym semi blefem jest 87, kt&oacute;re blefuje bardzo cz&#281;sto:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2023\/12\/06\/Screenshot_2023-12-06_121958.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" caption=\"false\"><figcaption>Czerwony = Raise, Zielony = Call, Niebieski = Fold<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Nie mamy showdown value z 87 i nie skaczemy pod sufit po trafieniu z t&#261; r&#281;k&#261; pary. Pod tym wzgl&#281;dem jest to lepszy blef ni&#380; draw do nutsowego koloru, poniewa&#380; je&#347;li zgarniemy pul&#281;, prawdopodobnie stanie si&#281; tak, poniewa&#380; przeciwnik spasuje lepsz&#261; r&#281;k&#281;. Nagle dotar&#322;o do mnie, &#380;e problem polega na odblokowaniu.<\/p>\n<h2>Nie wzmacniaj szerokiego zakresu check\/raise'uj&#261;c<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"modulRight\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2018\/05\/01\/dara_poker.jpg\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" caption=\"false\"><figcaption>Dara O'Kearney<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>A&spades;9&spades; ma bardzo du&#380;o equity na boardzie K&spades;6&spades;5&hearts; ale nie blokuje value r&#261;k Buttona. My blokujemy Ax, kt&oacute;re kontynuuowa&#322;yby betowanie dla blefu, a zrzuc&#261; do check\/raise'a, do tego blokujemy drawy do koloru, kt&oacute;re dominujemy. Kiedy gramy z t&#261; r&#281;k&#261; check\/raise, zwi&#281;kszamy prawdopodobie&#324;stwo, &#380;e po kontynuacji b&#281;dziemy grali na value, wi&#281;c nasza r&#281;ka lepiej sprawdza si&#281; jako bluff catcher, poniewa&#380; calluj&#261;c zachowujemy wszystkie blefy w zakresie przeciwnika.<\/p>\n<p>R&#281;ka, taka jak 87, na rainbow wersji tego flopa lepiej sprawdza si&#281; jako blef, poniewa&#380; nie blokujemy wszystkich tych blef&oacute;w, kt&oacute;re by spasowa&#322;y do raise'a, a jako &#380;e 8-high to zwykle s&#322;abszy uk&#322;ad, dostanie z nim foldu od rywala jest sukcesem.<\/p>\n<p>Jak zwykle zapyta&#322;em o zdanie swojego trenera. Dara O'Kearney widzi to w ten spos&oacute;b:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Zgadzam si&#281; z twoimi za&#322;o&#380;eniami. Czasami check\/raise'ujemy przeciwko graczowi z wczesnej pozycji, poniewa&#380; nie b&#281;dziemy mieli zbyt wiele showdown value i chcemy, aby nasze check\/raise'y by&#322;y drawami z bardzo silnymi r&#281;kami. Przeciwko Buttonowi mamy showdown value i je&#347;li po prostu sprawdzimy, zachowamy nasze outy z par, poniewa&#380; b&#281;dziemy gra&#263; przeciwko szerszemu zakresowi, ni&#380; gdyby&#347;my check\/raise'owali i zostali sprawdzieni.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Wracaj&#261;c do pierwotnego rozdania, taka powinna by&#263; odpowied&#378; na check\/raise:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2023\/12\/06\/Screenshot_2023-12-06_123834.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1087\" height=\"686\" caption=\"false\"><figcaption>Czerwony = Raise, Zielony = Call, Niebieski = Fold<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Wi&#281;kszo&#347;&#263; Ax, kt&oacute;re kontynuuj&#261;, ma lepszego kickera lub ju&#380; trafi&#322;y par&#281;. Wszystkie Kx kontynuuj&#261;. S&#261; Qx i Jx, kt&oacute;re kontynuuj&#261;, a my je bijemy, ale wi&#281;kszo&#347;&#263; z nich to flush drawy\/backdoor flush drawy, kt&oacute;re blokujemy.<\/p>\n<p>M&oacute;j wniosek jest taki, &#380;e zakres Buttona jest tak szeroki, &#380;e draw do koloru nutsowego ma showdown value i jeste&#347;my szcz&#281;&#347;liwi, je&#347;li uda nam si&#281; trafi&#263; top par&#281;, wi&#281;c ostatni&#261; rzecz&#261;, kt&oacute;r&#261; chcemy zrobi&#263;, to check\/raise'owa&#263; i zostawia&#263; rywala z silniejszym zakresem. Lepiej blefowa&#263; s&#322;absze drawy, poniewa&#380; jeste&#347;my szcz&#281;&#347;liwsi, gdy dostaniemy fold, a jednocze&#347;nie wiemy, gdzie jeste&#347;my, kiedy z&#322;apiemy par&#281;.<\/p>\n<p><em>Jak uczysz si&#281; poza sto&#322;ami? Podziel si&#281; swoimi metodami w komentarzu:<\/em><\/p>\n<figure class=\"modulFull\"><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n<p><br>\n<\/p>\n<\/body>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Barry Carter konsultuje si\u0119 z GTO Wizard i Dar\u0105 O'Kearney'em, aby dowiedzie\u0107 si\u0119, dlaczego oboje pasywnie rozgrywaj\u0105 nutsowy draw do koloru przeciwko Buttonowi.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":40812,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40811","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-content"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Self Study: Dlaczego nie check\/raise&#039;ujemy z nutsowym flush drawem? 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