	{"id":41419,"date":"2024-07-16T16:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-07-16T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/czy-qq-bylo-dobrym-foldem-na-bubble-stolu-finalowego\/"},"modified":"2026-03-03T19:41:58","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T19:41:58","slug":"czy-qq-bylo-dobrym-foldem-na-bubble-stolu-finalowego","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/news\/content\/Czy-QQ-by%C5%82o-dobrym-foldem-na-bubble-sto%C5%82u-fina%C5%82owego_131978\/","title":{"rendered":"Czy QQ by\u0142o dobrym foldem na bubble sto\u0142u fina\u0142owego?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><p><br>\n<br>\n<\/p><br><br><body>\n<p>Od kiedy&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/mybook.to\/ICM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">napisa&#322;em ksi&#261;&#380;k&#281; o ICM,<\/a> co roku ludzie przysy&#322;aj&#261; mi dyskusyjne rozdania z Main Eventu i pytaj&#261; o nie w&#322;a&#347;nie pod k&#261;tem ICM. Ostatnio zosta&#322;em wr&#281;cz zasypany tym foldem QQ z <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/news\/world-of-poker\/131970\/\">bubble sto&#322;u fina&#322;owego<\/a> Main Eventu, wi&#281;c nie mia&#322;em wyj&#347;cia i musia&#322;em przyjrze&#263; mu si&#281; bli&#380;ej.<\/p>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulFull\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/GSgZjGaXcAA7f-H.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/GSgZjGaXcAA7f-H.jpeg\" alt=\"Dara O Kearney\" caption=\"false\" width=\"590\" height=\"333\"><\/a><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\">Kliknij, aby powi&#281;kszy&#263; i zobaczy&#263; stacki<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Big stack Joe Serock otwiera A6o z UTG+1, a Jonathan Tamayo insta folduje QQ na &#347;rodkowej pozycji. &#379;eby mie&#263; odpowiedni kontekst warto zaznaczy&#263;, &#380;e Diogo Coehlo ma mniej ni&#380; 6BB na Small Blindzie, co pompuje presj&#281; ICM.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>O to toczy&#322;a si&#281; gra:<\/p>\n<div class=\"tableWrapper\">\n<div class=\"tableWrapper--responsive\">\n<table class=\"tableDefault\">\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Miejsce<\/th>\n<th>Nagroda(USD)<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>10 000 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>6 000 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>4 000 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>3 000 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td>2 500 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<td>2 000 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>1 500 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>1 250 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<td>1 000 000 $<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Zanim w og&oacute;le odpal&#281; symulacj&#281;, na obron&#281; Tamayo podkre&#347;l&#281;, &#380;e z pewno&#347;ci&#261; s&#261; spoty, w kt&oacute;rych QQ jest na granicy. Widzia&#322;em ostatnio podobne sytuacje, w kt&oacute;rych QQ jest w najlepszym razie miksowane przeciwko otwarciu z wczesnej pozycji. W tym spocie pasuj&#261;c niemal zapewnia sobie kolejne 200 000 $, kt&oacute;re dla wielu os&oacute;b s&#261; pieni&#281;dzmi, mog&#261;cymi zmieni&#263; &#380;ycie.<\/p>\n<p>My&#347;l&#281;, &#380;e wi&#281;kszo&#347;&#263; ludzi najbardziej zaskoczy&#322;a szybko&#347;&#263;, z jak&#261; Tamayo spasowa&#322;. Przeanalizujmy jednak samo rozdanie.<\/p>\n<h2>Czy to by&#322; insta fold?<\/h2>\n<p>To nie by&#322;a idealna symulacja z wykorzystaniem&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.holdemresources.net\/hrc\/download?via=pokerstrategy\">Hold'em Resources Calculator<\/a>,&nbsp;<\/strong>poniewa&#380; jestem w Vegas bez dost&#281;pu do mojego g&#322;&oacute;wnego PC. By&#322;a to uproszczona symulacja, kt&oacute;ra uwzgl&#281;dnia&#322;a otwarcia, raise'y i shove'y. Na pocz&#261;tek zobaczmy, co Serock powinien by&#322; otworzy&#263;:<\/p>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/Screenshot_2024-07-15_105959.png\" alt=\"Dara O Kearney\" caption=\"false\" width=\"590\" height=\"333\"><\/figure>\n<p>Serock by&#322; w&oacute;wczas chip liderem, wi&#281;c m&oacute;g&#322; otworzy&#263; ca&#322;kiem szeroki zakres, bior&#261;c pod uwag&#281; jego wczesn&#261; pozycj&#281; i presj&#281; ICM. Zwr&oacute;&#263;cie uwag&#281;, jak du&#380;o jest tu Ax. Kiedy ICM odgrywa du&#380;&#261; rol&#281;, blokery staj&#261; si&#281; bardzo wa&#380;ne. Otwarcie Ax jest op&#322;acalne, poniewa&#380; znacz&#261;co zmniejszamy liczb&#281; r&#261;k, kt&oacute;re b&#281;d&#261; nam si&#281; stawia&#263;. A6o to zazwyczaj kiepska r&#281;ka z wczesnej pozycji, ale Serock mia&#322; racj&#281;, otwieraj&#261;c j&#261; w tej sytuacji.<\/p>\n<p>To jest odpowied&#378; ICM, kt&oacute;r&#261; HRC proponuje Tamayo:<\/p>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/Screenshot_2024-07-15_110530.png\" alt=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/Screenshot_2024-07-15_110530.png\" caption=\"false\" width=\"731\" height=\"754\"><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\"><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>QQ to ca&#322;kiem prosty raise.<\/strong> W zasadzie na zmian&#281; mo&#380;na z t&#261; r&#281;k&#261; podbija&#263; i wrzuca&#263;. Nawet TT kontynuuje, pasowanie zaczyna si&#281; dopiero od 99.<\/p>\n<p><strong>QQ zarabia 143 148 $ w equity jako shove<\/strong>, wi&#281;c jest warte 14 buy-in&oacute;w. &#379;eby mie&#263; punkt odniesienia, AA zarabia&nbsp;jako shove&nbsp;396 540 $. Wykorzystanie AA jako punktu odniesienia do oceny op&#322;acalno&#347;ci danego zagrania cz&#281;sto jest dobrym pomys&#322;em. Dla por&oacute;wnania KQo zarabia 3097 $ poprzez podbicie, co nie wydaje si&#281; by&#263; akcj&#261;, wart&#261; podj&#281;cia, bior&#261;c pod uwag&#281;, &#380;e za pierwsze miejsce jest 10 mln $.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Istnieje tutaj przydatna zasada &bdquo;5 i 10&rdquo;. Je&#347;li co&#347; zarabia mniej ni&#380; 5% tego, co asy, foldowanie edge'a mo&#380;e by&#263; uzasadnione zmniejszaniem wariancji. Je&#347;li co&#347; stanowi wi&#281;cej ni&#380; 10% profitu as&oacute;w, nigdy nie powinno si&#281; takiej r&#281;ki odpuszcza&#263;.<\/p>\n<p>To mo&#380;e zaskoczy&#263; kilka os&oacute;b, bo jest to do&#347;&#263; szeroki zakres, bior&#261;c pod uwag&#281;, &#380;e przy stole znajduje si&#281; gracz z bardzo ma&#322;ym stackiem, co powinno zach&#281;ca&#263; &#347;rednie stacki do pasywno&#347;ci.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dzieje si&#281; tak g&#322;&oacute;wnie dlatego, &#380;e zakres Serocka w tym spocie powinien by&#263; tak szeroki, &#380;e QQ jest jeszcze bardziej op&#322;acalne. <\/strong>Je&#347;li zagramy all-in z QQ, zak&#322;adaj&#261;c, &#380;e wszyscy inni pasuj&#261; do Serocka, to jego zakres sprawdzenia wygl&#261;da tak:<\/p>\n<figure itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/Screenshot_2024-07-15_111438.png\" alt=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/07\/15\/Screenshot_2024-07-15_110530.png\" caption=\"false\" width=\"731\" height=\"754\"><figcaption itemprop=\"caption\"><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Musi pasowa&#263; 80% r&#261;k, kt&oacute;re otworzy&#322;, a QQ ma bardzo du&#380;&#261; przewag&#281; equity przeciwko callom,<\/strong> poza oczywi&#347;cie AA, KK czy AK. To bardzo profitowy spot dla Tamayo.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ludzie b&#322;&#281;dnie zak&#322;adaj&#261;, &#380;e surowe podej&#347;cie do ICM oznacza, &#380;e &#8203;&#8203;musimy przez ca&#322;y czas gra&#263; jak Nit. W rzeczywisto&#347;ci chodzi g&#322;&oacute;wnie o to, &#380;e cz&#281;sto mamy do czynienia ze znacznie w&#281;&#380;szymi ni&#380; zwykle zakresami, ale gdy s&#261; one szersze (jak w przypadku chip lidera &#347;wiadomie wywieraj&#261;cego presj&#281;), nie musimy by&#263; tak tight.<\/p>\n<p>Ponownie staj&#261;c w obronie Tamayo, widzia&#322;em sytuacje, w kt&oacute;rych QQ by&#322;o foldem do otwarcia na bubble sto&#322;u fina&#322;owego. Cz&#281;sto osoba z QQ czuje si&#281; bardziej zagro&#380;ona, gdy znajduje si&#281; na wcze&#347;niejszej pozycji, bo musi martwi&#263; si&#281; wi&#281;ksz&#261; liczb&#261; graczy, kt&oacute;rzy zagrywaj&#261; po niej. Dzieje si&#281; tak zw&#322;aszcza wtedy, gdy gracz posiadaj&#261;cy bardzo ma&#322;y stack jest o krok od eliminacji.<\/p>\n<p>Innym czynnikiem jest to, &#380;e <strong>wyp&#322;aty za czo&#322;owe pozycje s&#261; wy&#380;sze ni&#380; w zwyk&#322;ych MTT<\/strong>, co sprawia, &#380;e &#8203;&#8203;ICM jest mniej ekstremalny. Mamy wi&#281;ksz&#261; motywacj&#281; do d&#261;&#380;enia do zwyci&#281;stwa lub zaj&#281;cia miejsca w pierwszej tr&oacute;jce, a mniej do przeskakiwania kolejnych poziom&oacute;w wyp&#322;at.<\/p>\n<p>Mo&#380;liwe, &#380;e na jego decyzj&#281; m&oacute;g&#322; mie&#263; wp&#322;yw presti&#380; zwi&#261;zany z dotarciem do sto&#322;u fina&#322;owego i zdobyciem siedmiocyfrowej wyp&#322;aty. Je&#347;li chodzi o st&oacute;&#322; fina&#322;owy Main Eventu, towarzyszy mu emocjonalna ba&#324;ka. Jest to moment decyduj&#261;cy o karierze, kt&oacute;ry mo&#380;e otworzy&#263; nowe mo&#380;liwo&#347;ci poza sto&#322;ami.<\/p>\n<p>Co najwa&#380;niejsze, Tamayo dotrwa do kolejnego dnia, w kt&oacute;rym b&#281;dzie m&oacute;g&#322; walczy&#263; o 10 milion&oacute;w dolar&oacute;w, wi&#281;c patrz&#261;c na to zagranie po latach, mo&#380;e uzna&#263;, &#380;e by&#322;a to najlepsza decyzja w jego pokerowym &#380;yciu. &#379;ycz&#281; mu powodzenia!<\/p>\n<p><i>Mo&#380;esz otrzyma&#263; darmowy ebook Dary o efektywnej nauce pokera, je&#347;li <a href=\"https:\/\/gmail.us14.list-manage.com\/subscribe?u=dddf09fcfe4d706f7b2822279&amp;id=f4dde9c877\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">do&#322;&#261;czysz do jego newslettera<\/a>.<a href=\"https:\/\/gmail.us14.list-manage.com\/subscribe?u=dddf09fcfe4d706f7b2822279&amp;id=f4dde9c877\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><\/i><\/p>\n\n<p><br>\n<\/p>\n<\/body>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dara O'Kearney analizuje insta fold QQ, do kt\u00f3rego dosz\u0142o w niedzielny wiecz\u00f3r na bubble sto\u0142u fina\u0142owego Main Eventu.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41420,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41419","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-content"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Czy QQ by\u0142o dobrym foldem na bubble sto\u0142u fina\u0142owego? 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