{"id":5118,"date":"2009-01-23T17:04:00","date_gmt":"2009-01-23T17:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/durrrr-challenge-jaka-jest-stawka-tej-gry\/"},"modified":"2026-03-03T04:45:17","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T04:45:17","slug":"durrrr-challenge-jaka-jest-stawka-tej-gry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pl\/news\/world-of-poker\/durrrr-Challenge-jaka-jest-stawka-tej-gry_14817\/","title":{"rendered":"durrrr Challenge - jaka jest stawka tej gry?"},"content":{"rendered":"<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><p><style type=\"text\/css\">\n<\/style>\n<\/p><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pokeronamac.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/day1b-dwan1.jpg\" alt=\"http:\/\/pokeronamac.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/06\/day1b-dwan1.jpg\" width=\"150\" align=\"right\" height=\"223\">\n<\/p><p>Chyba ju&#380; ka&#380;dy szuka podst&#281;pu ukrytego w wyzwaniu Dwana. Nadal jednak poszukiwania spe&#322;zaj&#261; na niczym. Dok&#322;adnie analizuj&#261;c zasady <b><i>Million Dollar Challenge<\/i><\/b> nikt nie dopatrzy&#322; si&#281; &#380;adnych niejasno&#347;ci. Nie ma te&#380; tekstu pisanego drobnym druczkiem na ko&#324;cu umowy.<\/p><p>Wi&#281;c o co tak naprawd&#281; chodzi? Gdzie Dwan ma przewag&#281;, w jaki spos&oacute;b chce zarobi&#263; na wymy&#347;lonej przez siebie zabawie? Bo to, &#380;e chce zarobi&#263;, nie ulega w&#261;tpliwo&#347;ci. Jak du&#380;o pieni&#281;dzy gwiazdor pokera online i jego przeciwnicy b&#281;d&#261; ryzykowa&#263;, siadaj&#261;c do gry przy wirtualnych stolikach? Czy Dwan naprawd&#281; ma nad innymi a&#380; tak&#261; przewag&#281;? Czy mo&#380;e teraz spa&#263; spokojnie po tym, gdy wywo&#322;a&#322; gigantyczne zamieszanie, rzucaj&#261;c wyzwanie ca&#322;emu pokerowemu &#347;wiatu?<\/p><p>Pytania takiej lub podobnej tre&#347;ci nasuwaj&#261; si&#281; chyba ka&#380;demu z nas. Ma&#322;o tego, <i>Million Dollar Challenge<\/i> jest teraz najg&#322;o&#347;niejszym tematem plotek, wywiad&oacute;w, ekspertyz. Ka&#380;dy przelicza, kombinuje. Kto zna si&#281; na rzeczy, publicznie wyra&#380;a w&#322;asne zdanie w tym temacie.<\/p><p><font size=\"2\"><b>Ile pieni&#281;dzy trzeba zaryzykowa&#263;, aby stan&#261;&#263; do walki?<\/b><\/font><\/p><p>W tym temacie wypowiadali si&#281; Isaac Haxton i Scott Seiver. Dyskutuj&#261;c o mo&#380;liwym winrate pr&oacute;bowali ustali&#263; jak&#261;&#347; sensown&#261; liczb&#281;. Pr&oacute;bowali, ale zgodnie stwierdzili, &#380;e nie da si&#281; tego precyzyjnie okre&#347;li&#263;. To b&#281;d&#261; pojedynki heads-up, czyli najmniej przewidywalna, nios&#261;ca ze sob&#261; najwi&#281;ksze swingi, odmiana gry w pokera. Haxton i Seiver stwierdzili, &#380;e w miar&#281; miarodajne mo&#380;e by&#263; przyj&#281;cie winrate w wielko&#347;ci od -8 do +8 big blind&oacute;w na 100 rozda&#324;. <\/p><p>Dr&#261;&#380;&#261;c dalej temat winrate, dwaj panowie doszli do tematu swing&oacute;w w grze heads-up. Doszli do wniosku, &#380;e u wygrywaj&#261;cego gracza swingi na poziomie 60 buy-in&oacute;w to rzecz normalna. Je&#347;li teraz zerkniemy do zasad gry w <i>Million Dollar Challenge<\/i>, to ju&#380; stosunkowo &#322;atwo jest obliczy&#263;, jaki zapas got&oacute;wki trzeba mie&#263; na koncie, aby my&#347;le&#263; o rozpocz&#281;ciu gry przeciwko Dwanowi. Przy sto&#322;ach 200$ \/ 400$ i buy-inem w wielko&#347;ci 75 big blind&oacute;w (to najni&#380;szy buy-in zaproponowany przez Dwana), swing na poziomie 60 buy-in&oacute;w poch&#322;onie kwot&#281; 1,8 mln $! Id&#261;c dalej tym samym tropem dochodzimy do stawek 500$ \/ 1000$. Tutaj na wypadek utraty 60 buy-in&oacute;w trzeba mie&#263; od&#322;o&#380;one 4,5 mln $! I pami&#281;tajmy, &#380;e to s&#261; obliczenia przeprowadzane dla wygrywaj&#261;cego gracza. Je&#347;li kto&#347; nie radzi sobie najlepiej, mo&#380;e potrzebowa&#263; wi&#281;cej got&oacute;wki, aby przetrwa&#263; downswing.<\/p><p><font size=\"2\"><b>Przewaga <i>durrrra<\/i><\/b><\/font><\/p><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/Editorial\/pl\/News\/daut.jpg\" alt=\"ryan daut\" width=\"150\" align=\"left\" height=\"189\">Ryan Daut twierdzi, &#380;e Dwan mimo wszystko sporo zarobi na swoim wyzwaniu, bez wzgl&#281;du na to, &#380;e w wypadku przegrania kt&oacute;rego&#347; pojedynku b&#281;dzie on musia&#322; straci&#263; 1 mln $ ekstra.<\/p><p>Czym Ryan Daut argumentuje swoje przypuszczenia? Ot&oacute;&#380; Ryan Daut twierdzi, &#380;e na dzie&#324; dzisiejszy <i>durrrr<\/i> nie ma sobie r&oacute;wnych w grze heads-up w No Limit Hold'em, za&#347; w Pot Limit Omaha <i>durrrr<\/i> ust&#281;puje tylko kilku graczom na &#346;wiecie.<\/p><p><i>Tom wk&#322;ada do puli 1,5 mln $ naprzeciw 500 tys. $ od swojego potencjalnego rywala, zatem na pierwszy rzut oka wydaje si&#281;, &#380;e Dwan b&#281;dzie potrzebowa&#322; ogra&#263; 75% swoich rywali, aby mie&#263; szanse osi&#261;gn&#261;&#263; zysk. Jednak to nie jest do ko&#324;ca prawda, poniewa&#380; pr&oacute;cz kwot, o kt&oacute;r&#261; toczy&#263; si&#281; b&#281;dzie batalia, gracze zatrzymuj&#261; r&oacute;wnie&#380; pieni&#261;dze wygrane w trakcie pojedynku trwaj&#261;cego minimum 50 tys. rozda&#324;. I to jest w&#322;a&#347;nie furtka. Je&#347;li dajmy na to Dwan b&#281;dzie do przodu o 1,5 mln $ z samego pojedynku, to wystarczy mu to na pokrycie sidebeta w grze przeciwko innemu rywalowi. Kr&oacute;tko m&oacute;wi&#261;c, je&#347;li tylko Dwan nie zaliczy jakiej&#347; pot&#281;&#380;nej przegranej, to wed&#322;ug mnie wystarczy, &#380;eby wygra&#322; oko&#322;o 60-65% swoich pojedynk&oacute;w, a i tak sporo na tym wszystkim zarobi. Ja wierz&#281;, &#380;e mu si&#281; to uda. <\/i>- takimi s&#322;owami zako&#324;czy&#322; swoje wywody Ryan Daut.<\/p><p><font size=\"2\"><b>Kiedy start i jak d&#322;ugo to wszystko potrwa?<\/b><\/font><\/p><p>Ryan Daut pytany o to, ile czasu zajmie pojedynczy challenge, nie potrafi&#322; udzieli&#263; jednoznacznej odpowiedzi. Daut stwierdzi&#322;, &#380;e jest to do zrobienia w dwa tygodnie, przy za&#322;o&#380;eniu, &#380;e gracze b&#281;d&#261; spotyka&#263; si&#281; ze sob&#261; codziennie podczas pi&#281;ciogodzinnych sesji.<\/p><p><i>Problem tkwi gdzie indziej. Gracze highstakes ci&#261;gle poszukuj&#261; dobrych gierek. I je&#347;li tylko takie wypatrz&#261;, to siadaj&#261; do sto&#322;u. Zapewne nie jest to dla nich szczytem marze&#324;, je&#347;li maj&#261; gra&#263; heads-up przeciwko osobie o podobnych umiej&#281;tno&#347;ciach. Czasami te&#380; wcale nie maj&#261; ochoty na pokera, innym razem s&#261; w podr&oacute;&#380;y. 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