{"id":18574,"date":"2013-08-10T20:06:00","date_gmt":"2013-08-10T20:06:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/o-melhor-fold-de-sempre\/"},"modified":"2026-07-07T06:35:50","modified_gmt":"2026-07-07T06:35:50","slug":"o-melhor-fold-de-sempre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/news\/content\/O-melhor-fold-de-sempre_75088\/","title":{"rendered":"O melhor fold de sempre?"},"content":{"rendered":"<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hX8NTyZ16fA\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"329\" width=\"585\"><\/iframe><\/p><h2>O que achas da jogada? Deixa a tua opini&atilde;o nos coment&aacute;rios!<\/h2><p>Estamos na fase inicial do Main Event das WSOP 2008 com blinds a 50\/100. Infelizmente, n&atilde;o temos o tamanho exato das satcks mas podemos assumir que cada um dos jogadores tem aproximadamente a stack inicial de 30.000 fichas.<\/p><p>Mike Matusow faz limp nas posi&ccedil;&otilde;es iniciais com <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/9h.png\" alt=\"9h\" title=\"9h\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/9d4.png\" alt=\"9d\" title=\"9d\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"> e o campe&atilde;o do EPT &amp; WPT Roberto Romanello d&aacute; call com <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Jd4.png\" alt=\"Jd\" title=\"Jd\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Jh.png\" alt=\"Jh\" title=\"Jh\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\">. Todos fazem fold at&eacute; Gregory Geller que raisa para 600 com <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Ks.png\" alt=\"Ks\" title=\"Ks\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Kc4.png\" alt=\"Kc\" title=\"Kc\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\">. As blinds foldam e Matusow e Romanello fazem call. <\/p><p>O pote tem agora 1.950 fichas e o flop traz <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/As.png\" alt=\"As\" title=\"As\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Js.png\" alt=\"Js\" title=\"Js\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Kh.png\" alt=\"Kh\" title=\"Kh\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\">. Tanto Geller como Romanello acertam set no flop, Matusow falhou; os tr&ecirc;s jogadores fazem check. <\/p><p>O turn traz o <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Tc4.png\" alt=\"Tc\" title=\"Tc\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"> e todos fazem novamente check. No river vem o <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/oldresources\/de\/PICS\/news\/Deck\/Td4.png\" alt=\"Td\" title=\"Td\" width=\"24\" height=\"13\" align=\"absmiddle\"> e Matusow faz check pela terceira vez, antes de Romanello apostar 1.800, as primeiras fichas colocadas na mesa no p&oacute;s-flop.<\/p><p>Geller faz raise para 6.000 e Matusow faz fold da sua m&atilde;o. Romanello pergunta a Geller se mostra a m&atilde;o se ele fizer fold. Geller diz que n&atilde;o, Roberto folda a sua m&atilde;o e Geller acaba por mostrar as suas cartas. Romanello tamb&eacute;m mostrou a sua m&atilde;o e Mike Matusow ficou perplexo ao ver que Romanello conseguiu foldar um grande full house. <\/p><h2>Devemos arriscar tudo aqui?<\/h2><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2013\/07\/31\/roma_1.jpg\" alt=\"\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2013\/07\/31\/roma_1.jpg\" width=\"230\" height=\"256\" style=\"margin-left: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; float: right;\">Embora n&atilde;o tenhamos informa&ccedil;&atilde;o sobre o tamanho exato das stacks, sabemos que Roberto estava a receber odds melhores do que 2-to-1 para o call com um full house. Ele s&oacute; perde para AA, KK ou TT. <\/p><p>&Oacute;bvio que a din&acirc;mica da mesa at&eacute; &agrave; altura e os tells f&iacute;sicos podem entrar na discuss&atilde;o, mas ser&aacute; que podemos alguma vez foldar uma m&atilde;o t&atilde;o boa como esta?<\/p><p>Pergunt&aacute;mos a alguns dos nossos treinadores a sua opini&atilde;o em rela&ccedil;&atilde;o a este fold:<\/p><p><a style=\"color: black;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/video\/#searchtext=CollinMoshman&amp;key=all\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/image\/ranks\/mini\/admin.png\" alt=\"Admin\" width=\"17\" height=\"12\"><strong>CollinMoshman<\/strong><\/a>:  \"Mesmo que coloquemos o nosso oponente num range de apenas full houses ou melhor, existem mais combina&ccedil;&otilde;es de full houses com Tx do que combina&ccedil;&otilde;es de outros full houses melhores e quads - al&eacute;m disso, estamos a receber boas odds. Por isso, a menos que ele esteja muito confiante que o advers&aacute;rio muito raramente vai estar a bluffar ou a raisar por valor full houses piores, o call ao raise &eacute; um movimento correto.\"<\/p><p><a style=\"color: black;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/video\/#searchtext=CollinMoshman&amp;key=all\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/image\/ranks\/mini\/admin.png\" alt=\"Admin\" width=\"17\" height=\"12\"><\/a><strong><a style=\"color: black;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/video\/#searchtext=katie&amp;key=all\">KatieDozier<\/a>: <\/strong>\"Sempre que as camaras est&atilde;o presentes na mesa, as chances de bluff s&atilde;o maiores. Depois do check no flop e turn &eacute; dif&iacute;cil colocar Geller em AA ou KK. &Eacute; mais prov&aacute;vel que ele tenha full houses piores, com um T, ou bluffs (claro que tamb&eacute;m existe a possibilidade de quads). A n&atilde;o ser que ele tenha uma leitura muito s&oacute;lida para achar que Geller teria feito check de AA ou KK duas vezes, e que nunca faria raise com straight, sem informa&ccedil;&atilde;o adicional em fico inclinada para dar o call. No entanto, quando Geller diz de imediato \"s&oacute; n&atilde;o quero que fa&ccedil;as raise\" e se recusa a mostar as cartas caso Romanello fa&ccedil;a fold, isso deixava-me a pensar durante algum tempo!\"<\/p><h2>Ser&aacute; que o discurso o denunciou?<\/h2><p><a style=\"color: black;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/video\/#searchtext=CollinMoshman&amp;key=all\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2013\/07\/31\/geller.jpg\" alt=\"\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2013\/07\/31\/geller.jpg\" width=\"230\" height=\"287\" style=\"margin-right: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px; float: left;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/image\/ranks\/mini\/admin.png\" alt=\"Admin\" width=\"17\" height=\"12\"><\/a><strong><span style=\"color: black;\">DMorgan<\/span>: <\/strong>\"Eu acho que &eacute; um bom fold; &eacute; seguro assumir que Geller n&atilde;o tem um range de bluff quando raisa para mais de 3x a aposta do tamanho do pote que Roberto faz no river - e tamb&eacute;m n&atilde;o tem Qx pois apostaria no turn com esse tipo de m&atilde;o. Ax aposta no flop, s&oacute; existe uma combina&ccedil;&atilde;o de JT e os fishes adoram fazer check back quando flopam um set; &eacute; bastante plaus&iacute;vel ele ter AA neste river.\"<\/p><p>\"O discurso de Geller tamb&eacute;m ajudou Romanello a tomar a sua decis&atilde;o. Quando jogadores desconhecidos fazem movimentos muito fortes e depois come&ccedil;am a falar, pela minha experi&ecirc;ncia, eles costumam ter joguinho. &Eacute; bastante improv&aacute;vel que ele esteja a fazer raise bluff num evento de $10.000; &eacute; ainda mais improv&aacute;vel que caso ele estivesse a bluffar come&ccedil;asse a falar. Al&eacute;m disso, de certeza que Roberto viu os jogadores que iam estar na sua mesa, para pesquisa sobre eles, e sabia que Geller muito provavelmente seria um jogador recreativo.\"<\/p><p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/image\/ranks\/mini\/admin.png\" alt=\"Admin\" width=\"17\" height=\"12\"><span style=\"color: black;\">TomSom87<\/span>: <\/strong>\"Isto est&aacute; tudo relacionado com o discurso de Geller, mais do que com qualquer outra coisa.  Al&eacute;m disso, tenho a certeza que ouvi o comentador a dizer que ele fez um raise muito grande no pr&eacute;-flop. &Eacute; imposs&iacute;vel pensares que AK &eacute; bom no river com quatro cartas para straight na mesa. Ele tem claramente uma boa m&atilde;o e quando come&ccedil;a a falar prova isso mesmo. Ent&atilde;o, que m&atilde;os batemos? N&atilde;o me parece que ele fa&ccedil;a um raise t&atilde;o grande com uma Q e depois fique todo excitado quando a board dobra. N&atilde;o estou a dizer que n&atilde;o &eacute; um fold muito sick, um fold que eu provavelmente n&atilde;o conseguiria fazer, mas todos os sinais de Geller sugerem que ele tem um monstro.\"<\/p><p>Alguma vez consegues foldar full house no river com t&atilde;o boas odds? Deixa-nos a tua opini&atilde;o na sec&ccedil;&atilde;o de coment&aacute;rios da not&iacute;cia.<\/p><p>Para mais an&aacute;lises de m&atilde;os, visita os nossos f&oacute;runs de avali&ccedil;&atilde;o de m&atilde;os:<\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/Editorial\/elements\/ps_image_arrow_link.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"16\" height=\"12\"> <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/pt\/forum\/board.php?boardid=272\">F&oacute;runs de Estrat&eacute;gia de Poker e Avalia&ccedil;&atilde;o de M&atilde;os<\/a><\/strong><\/p><p><script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ <![CDATA[\n$('a[class^=\"glossaryHint\"]').contents().unwrap();\n\/\/ ]]><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alguns dos nossos treinadores analisaram a m\u00c3\u00a3o onde o campe\u00c3\u00a3o do EPT &#038; WPT Roberto Romanello folda um full house no Main Event. 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