NL50 Live Session: Taking Notes and Profiling Opponents

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In his new video Bogdan focuses on how to exploit your opponents by noting their weaknesses. He will demonstrate opponent profiling during a live session,

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  • FishermansFriend

    #1

    Enjoy the new video by Bogdan!

    Please keep the comments in English!
  • laghorn711

    #2

    first first

    nice one!
  • ridersonthedonkey

    #3

    u are often talking about what your notes are telling you about your opponent, y don't you write your conclusion down? i found that when u look at older notes in the middle of a hand with all that information about the exact board etc. I get confused and don't have the time to get the most important information on my opponent, so i would rather type something like: dry lcB (dry lowcardboard) or even just write (p.e. with that murph guy):

    cbets with small overpair on dry lcB, cd down T+R on 2 Overcards vs 60% PS OOP -> Valuebet thinly!!!

    so I would sum the information more up and would leave a conclusion or what to do note on the end , something like a gameplan or how to adjust, whats your opinion on that Bogdan? can u use your very specific information i later sessions? do you sum them up at some point? if yes when and how (examples would be nice!)?
  • ridersonthedonkey

    #4

    @BogdanPS
    so how and where can i apply for the coaching-series? i added u as a friend to send u my request, because i found no thread on the Forums concerning the coaching-series u are planning to do,
  • BogdanPS

    #5

    @ridersonthedonkey: Regarding the coaching series: I prefer if you sent me a private message. Please include as much information as you can about your game (limits, #tables, #hands/month, etc).

    Very good point about note taking. In a single session, unless I have solid reads, I will not write down (m)any specific conclusions. Most of these conclusions are usually mental notes for me.

    What I normally do is this:
    A) write notes throughout the session if something is very likely from his game I will write down the conclusion followed by the spots where I have found it.

    IE: gives up on the turn if he checks flop
    example(s) where I have seen this

    B) At the end of the session (or right before a new sessioN) I got over my hands and notes and polish them. It is during this time that I write down most of my conclusions (by now a lot of my mental notes are gone).

    So eventually notes will look like this:
    --------------
    Conclusions (ranges, lines, etc.)
    --------------
    Examples of the above
    --------------

    Your suggestion is also very good and it can be done like that as well. But remember to not take just one sample of said conclusion and make it a fact.
  • hally

    #6

    looks like a copy of "grindcore" for me!
  • ridersonthedonkey

    #7

    @BogdanPS

    regarding Applying for Coaching:

    I can only send u a private message once you added me as a friend, if theres any other possibility I can't do it for some reason,

    regarding notes-taking:

    thanks for your answer, makes some stuff clearer to me, i would really appreciate it if you would show that process of summing up the information and how you are doing it at the end of a session in your next video,

    how many hands or examples (i.e. notes) to you need to draw a conclusion?
  • BogdanPS

    #8

    @hally: I'm not sure how to reply to this. What do you mean by a copy of Grindcore?


    @rider: I wasn't aware of the fact that you can only send a message once we are friends. I sent you a request though so you can send me a PM after. I'll look into adding a thread on the forums then.


    Ok, I'll keep that in mind and will work on it for next time (possibly I can do a session review video where I discuss that).

    It depends on the note you are trying to take. For some 2-3 hands is enough (maybe even 1) while for others you need 4-5 or more. Conclusions can also be different too in the sense that some are uncertain (so you add a ?) or certain (you've seen enough to think that's the case).

    For example if I see someone call down light on 2-3 occasions that would be enough for me to make a conclusion regarding their bluff catching. Remember that when we take notes we have to be aware of everything from board texture, positions to dynamic/history/tilt factors.
  • ridersonthedonkey

    #9

    @BogdanPS

    ok so i suppose you would be waiting for 4-5 hands before you make a conclusion, when somebody is doing something rather fancy,spewy or rare like 3 barreling as a bluff with no equity (no fd,gs,2overs, basically nothing) ,or c/r the river as a bluff when some draw hits, or if somebody likes to call overbets with 2ndpair (special form of bluffcatching) ,stuff like that?

    For what other situations would it take you 4-5 notes to take a conclusion?
  • BogdanPS

    #10

    I would say that for the example you gave above you can make a conclusion after 2-3 samples given that usually 1 occurrence could be tilt but when there are a few it shows a trend.

    I'd say 4-5 would be for spots where I want to make a conclusion about his range and I want to be very specific.
    IE: 3-bets polarized range of XX and YY.

    In other words I don't want to rush to the conclusion that he 3-bets very polarized ranges and then adjust my play to make potentially big mistakes (let's say we see he 3-bets KK once and then A7o the other time). If over let's say 4 or 5 samples we see that 3 times he had weaker hands (junk) and 2 times value we can be happier about our conclusion.
  • ridersonthedonkey

    #11

    thanks alot for your detailed, long and quick answers!!!!
  • BogdanPS

    #12

    You are welcome rider.
  • Titangizmo

    #13

    I made a friend request too since I'm not sure on what forum your on. If you make a thread can you post link here or is friend request enough?
  • BogdanPS

    #15

    @ Titan: I have added you.

    @ Irrishka: Did you mean to add something else besides that link?
  • matusko

    #16

    great vid, liked it a lot.
  • Dublimax

    #17

    Hi Bogdan, sent you a friend request for the video series
  • Bulletdodger777

    #18

    Bogdan, thanks for the video, it's great. I hope to find some new vidoes from you soon.
  • hendzior

    #19

    Hello Bogdan, i would like to be your student in next video session, sending friend request.
  • Toshinger

    #20

    I like your approach based on notes, reads + stats, keep on doing videos! N1!
  • breena

    #21

    Nice vid should defo do more
  • donkeyshot

    #22

    Good vid. Thx.
    I'm going over my session in a simular way but definatly learned something from your approach.
    One thing I do sometimes is reviewing older sessions (or new ones where I missed hands opponents played vs. eachother)and hidding the opponents known hole cards to pratice handreading/assinging ranges. Like this I also get a better unbiased idea if I made the optimal play vs. their range rather then vs. their holecards. I also get to see if my assumptions about their range was correct.
  • donkeyshot

    #23

    ^ oops, posted in the wrong place. Should've been the other vid. Liked this one too btw ;)
  • Maniatrix

    #24

    Poor kareem being refered to as a "she"
  • DanDule

    #25

    Thumbs down, not spoken clearly enough.
  • Harnas31

    #26

    great vid
    3 tables + comments + making notes
    the heck of info

    thanks
  • EverSteel

    #27

    Hey Bogdan,

    9:06 KQo 1st table, you say that you like calling offsuit and 3betting suited for value. But you have to fold to a push from shortstack anyway, and it's better to play postflop (esp OOP) with a suited hand. Could you explain the situation?

    -ty
  • EverSteel

    #28

    Hey Bogdan,

    9:06 KQo 1st table, you say that you like calling offsuit and 3betting suited for value. But you have to fold to a push from shortstack anyway, and it's better to play postflop (esp OOP) with a suited hand. Could you explain the situation?

    -ty
  • sausage646

    #29

    IMO at 42:32 you are making big mistake by clicking auto check fold T8s up/left table - it's a big tell giving.