Dynamic 3betting Ranges - Part 2

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In the second part of the 3-betting series from Dengalne, we are taken through practical examples of 3-bet spots in the hand replayer format.

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Comments (18)

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  • EuanM

    #1

    Enjoy the second part of the 3-betting series from Dengalne!

    Please leave any questions or comments about the spots displayed in the hand review.
  • jbpatzer

    #2

    If the first part's gold, which I watched and enjoyed, why on earth would you make the second part diamond? Makes no sense at all.
  • DeMarcohsp

    #3

    Support JB on this one. Would like to be able to see the video as well.
  • EuanM

    #4

    Hey Guys,

    We decided to reduce the first Dengalne first video to Gold because we thought many of our members would benefit from the content, as well as this, we wanted to promote & welcome Dengalne into the community.

    We take this line often with new coaches, as it allows more exposure of their content to the community, and vice versa.

    Overall, both videos are at Diamond-level quality, but we thought it beneficial to reduce the requirements for the first video only.
  • jbpatzer

    #5

    Pfffff! OK. Fair enough. His HUD looks like my receipts from Tescos, so I didn't really want to watch it anyway.
  • Dengalne

    #6

    #2 and #3 its like EunM says they demoted the video to get more exposure for my video when I was totaly unknown in the english community. The whole series was planned to be diamond from the start.

    #5 What´s the negative thing with a detailed HUD?
  • stylus20

    #7

    really don't do that very often but ... diamond content, really?

    KJo was was okay regarding thin value3betting pre, but considering the board runout it was just a real whatever hand.

    thinking about cold4betting 44 is a real huge leak with 200bb stacksizes especially OOP. don't know what site you're playing, but on stars the regs will flat relative wide ranges in that spot (or bluff5bet blockers) and a small pp is the last thing you want as a cold4better in that position.

    the 3bet with K7o is as well a somewhat strange preflop decision, since you will get huge frequeny problems if you 3bet hands like this. in my opinion it's enough to 3bet top of our folding range, like some kombos of AJo,KJo,QJo. as played the cbet is prolly burning money most of the time since villain defends super tight to 3bets utg oop.

    overall no real diamond content, just a random nl1k vid.
  • jbpatzer

    #8

    I'm only joking. If your HUD works for you, that's great. My brain is too small to take in all that info in one go. I'm just pissed off that I can't watch part 2 having enjoyed part 1.
  • DeMarcohsp

    #9

    Long way to go to 10k-15k samples anyways :)
  • Dengalne

    #10

    #7
    The theme of the video was to show a playerspecific 3bet range rather than a GTO-based one. And like I explained in the video, a scenario against that extreme player in the cutoff, the BTN will widen his 3bet bluff range alot so we can come over the top and he will have to fold enough for makeing this a profitable play no matter if we have blockers or not. And its not a play that I think overall against a random regular is good, its just when we know this dynamic that the play becomes good enough to execute.


    The k7 I can agree its somewhat questionable and I think I should have atleast waited in suited cards or a-x to do it with. But the point was more to show of a guy that folds alot to 3bets and dont defend up with 4bets aswell. In a vaccum its EV+ to 3bet but if I would do it too often it would learn him his leak. But probably when I played the hand he had folded almost all the time to my 3bets and not showed that he was adjusting so I was expanding my bluff range down to king blokers aswell. But when you do that you have to be very aware if he is adjusting and stop 3bet bluffing him wide.


    About the cbet.
    I mentioned aswell in the video that he got a much stronger range so its questionable if we should cbet.
    But since we only cbet just over halfpot he only have to fold around 30% of the time and since he is OOP its pretty likely that he is doing that but its possible that he folds less aswell so its open for discussion if its good or but I think im a little bit more on your side that this is a scenario to skip the cbet. But on the other hand its very close if its good or not so its not a huge misstake either way.


    Thanks for your great feedback even though it was from a GTO-standpoint in a explovideo.
  • Dengalne

    #11

    #8
    I can understand that someone that have not got the HUD explained to them, think it looks too complicated. The HUD is actually very easy to use since I have seperated diffrent scenarios to diffrent areas in the HUD so I can just look in to that area for guidence for a specific spot.
  • Dengalne

    #12

    #9
    It depends on what site you play and how many tables etc. To those who dont manage to raise enough hands I would recommend not using too complicated stats but you can still use most of the stats I showed in the video with a much smaller sample.
  • Sneijder1091

    #13

    Nice work! I like your videos a lot...
    could you please explain once more exactly the stats on your HUD? I like the Hud a lot...
  • Dengalne

    #14

    #13
    The HUD is seperated in to rows and segments to explain specific situations rather than some overall thing. So one row might explain how someone plays as a PFR and another how they play when they called preflop etc.
    To explain all the stats I would need an additional video. If alot of people are intressted in it I can make one.
  • Sneijder1091

    #15

    #14
    would be great...
    thanks a lot!
  • Dublimax

    #16

    Overall I think there is a lack of preparation for this video which gives poorly articulated thoughts.
    In the KJ hand it looks like you see the hand for the first time.
  • Dengalne

    #17

    #16
    I picked the hands to show off preflop scenarios so I was not prepared for what would happend postflop. But now in hindsight I think I should just have had a shorter postflop analasys of the KJ hand since the example was mostly about preflop.

    Thanks for pointing out something I can improve and be more well prepared for the next time.
  • Pandoram

    #18

    I am interested in your HUD stats as well. Would be fine for me if you just point them out without explainining them, i think i can figure them out by myself...