Weekly Freebie: Defining villains range on the turn

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YourDoom takes us through a hand which has kept him awake at night as he mentioned: hopefully he was able to review it to an extent where he could improve his play when this context occurs again! Enjoy the video & please feel free to leave any thoughts or comments for the coach.


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  • EuanM


    Enjoy the latest weekly freebie with YourDoom!

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  • Newdi91


    very interesting video! :D
  • Dublimax


    What is you value range to Check flop and Check/Raise the turn once it goes c/c/c on flop?
    To me not much if at all because I think you would donk the Turn with all your value range (correct me if I am wrong)
    I think that your range looks like FD a lot here and villain might shove over your c/r with nut FD and pair + FD.
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  • deivid2


    Why you remove 76 his range? you think he always bet flop this?

    3 - i agree this. ch-c/r line look so fishy.
  • mbml


    hmm with a fish in the hand, you are probably leading the Flop with all your value holdings instead of going for a checkraise. do you think u can rep the nuts very well still?

    but still, i guess his range is greatly capped
  • grrgrrbla


    why don't you just bet turn+river? the fish likely has nothing and the reg as well, maybe a weak pair like 66/77/56s/54s etc. or a picked up draw like you mentioned with which he would call once but definitely fold the river unimproved, i would slightly overbet turn (75$) and bet close to pot on blank rivers (any club i would check/fold and any 6 or 3 i might give up on as well), yes i would overbet air/the nuts everything here because it looks like i wiffed a checkraise and i can still have the nuts and villain can't, so his range is capped and mine is not giving me the opportunity to (gametheorywise) bluff with a higher frequenecy than if i bet say 2/3 the pot, what's your opinion on that yourdoom?
  • YourDoomPoker



    If I expect villain to react as planned, then I believe that I can actually take that line - xR turn and shove any non club river w ATC for +EV. Assuming my read on villains range and tendencies is accurate.

    You are right however, if your villain were to view your turn xR here as a FD only and might shove light, then you should only take that line w A5 or better (your value hands vs his light shoving range) or a massive draw.
  • YourDoomPoker



    Yes. I expect him to cBet 76 with me + a fish in the hand.
  • YourDoomPoker



    This is along the same lines as what Dublimax is saying. It really depends on how you expect your opponent to react to your turn xR.
  • YourDoomPoker



    Great comment. The one disadvantage is that when villain calls our turn donk, it'll be much harder to define his range and we'll have less information in the hand. I think his turn donk calling range would be wider in this spot than his betting range. But I still think that that would be a perfectly valid and fine line as well to bet large on the turn and non-club rivers in this spot.

    Like I said, at the time, I played the hand poorly and for the purposes of the video was focusing on what I should of done as played after I checked the turn and villain bet.
  • mnl1337


    btw J8s ist much more likly to be in his openingrange as compared to 53s. giving the fish on the button i wonder how he is winningplayer, opening such a bad hand :p
  • OhKonner


    although my thoughts have already been stated by #7 and answered by you now, i'd like to know if you read the feedback thread to this video or if it's for the users to discuss and you will only answer here :)
  • YourDoomPoker


    I read it. I'm glad your question was answered :)