Playing Out of Position With Initiative

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Please enjoy our latest offering from our Diamond Coach Oblioo as he goes into the finer points of playing Out of Position Postflop

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  • Boomer2k10

    #1

    Hi Everyone

    Please enjoy the latest offering from our Diamond Coach oblioo

    Any questions or comments please leave for Dustin below
  • oblioo

    #2

    a couple quick things I forgot to mention:

    1. I am focusing here primarily on single-raised pots.

    2. I forgot to talk about flush draws specifically, and the fact that c-betting, check/calling, and check/raising with flush draws and OESDs all have merits in different spots. I can get more into this in a future video if people are interested.
  • JohnyC1337

    #3

    This is exactly what i needed to see. Defending passive lines. Great! Thx
  • YsoSerious

    #4

    great video!

    i have one question: you are checking your sets nearly all of the time. are you still doing that if villain raises flopcbet ip ~20% ?
    dont you think you need to protect your cbetting range by cbetting sets?
  • oblioo

    #5

    Thanks! Yso, if villain raises the flop 20%, then that will of course make me more likely to cbet with sets, although there are other things to consider as well, such as how often is he betting vs. missed cbet, how often is he continuing vs. a check/raise, how the board connects with his range, etc.

    And no, I don't think it's always important to protect your cbetting range by cbetting sets--we can just call down with the top of our cbetting range (overpairs, tptk) vs. reasonably aggressive opponents.
  • Coolpawn

    #6

    Hi Oblioo, very nice video!
    I would like to know how you are playing strong draws like Ax FD´s or OESD´s with 1 or 2 overcards.
    Are you using these for you betting or x/c range?
    I guess these draws are to strong for adding them to our x/r range as a bluff?
    Additionally, I can imagine that it makes sense to add the weaker draws like weaker FDs etc to our x/c range?

    Thanks!
  • atton64

    #7

    First example(Q93fd):
    I don't like your "c/r the 6 combos of sets" idea. I think it's not too good to eliminate the 2/3 of our really strong range here since we will have 3 combos of 2p+ if we cbets here. Don't you think being such imbalanced is a mistake?
  • atton64

    #8

    You said something like " its good to have 2:1 bluffs:value x/r range".

    How did u calculate this number?

    Ps: I saw the answer to my previous question. Sorry about that.
  • oblioo

    #9

    #6 - Depending on the board and positions, I will either cbet or c/c strong draws (FDs, OESDs). The problems with check-raising with them is that a) it lets us check-raise less bluffs, and b) we don't want to get 3bet. Basically on boards when we want to be cbetting a lot it's fine to cbet flush draws, especially weaker ones without SDV, and then on boards where we probably don't want to be cbetting a lot, I prefer to c/c with a lot of FDs. I know this response is kind of vague but hopefully that helps some.

    #8 - The 2:1 bluffs:value thing is an approximation. I don't have exact math for it but I'm going to be talking a bit about it in my seminar tomorrow, which will focus constructing flop raising ranges in position ;)
  • w34z3l

    #10

    wow, nice desktop picture man
  • tomasa82

    #11

    Cute
  • dozeer

    #12

    pretty good vid, I am working on constructing continuing ranges for COvBU myself currently
  • dozeer

    #13

    #2 "2. I forgot to talk about flush draws specifically, and the fact that c-betting, check/calling, and check/raising with flush draws and OESDs all have merits in different spots. I can get more into this in a future video if people are interested."

    - that would be great, I am often unsure what part of my range would benefit most from having specific draw in it
  • DeanD

    #14

    Great Video, Dustin!
    KTs, NH! :)
  • everyoneissolid

    #15

    great video, please more videos of that kind!
    will there be another part?

    on AJ4r you said the BU has more nutted hands than MP, why do you say so?

    nutted hands are 2pair and better I assume.
    MP and BU have the same amount of AJ combos in their ranges, but you could also argue that some people might not flatcall AJo from the BU vs MP open.
    But they certainly dont call A4s everytime while MP is opening all combos of A4s.
    So imo MP has more 2pairs and also more sets because the BU would 3bet Aces most of the time.

    Why do you think the BU has more nutted hands? Did I missunderstood anything?
  • francisco42k

    #16

    TY so much for this video. It'd be interesting to see something similar but when we are playing OOP without initiative, after calling a steal. But thank you again, this has been extremely useful for me.