Trouble Spot Analysis: AAxx in 3-Bet Pots

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Skodljivec begin's his new series analysing trouble spots. In the first video it's AAxx spots in 3-bet pots.

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3-bet AAxx PLO Theory Video

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  • Boomer2k10

    #1

    Hi All

    PLease enjoy the first video in Skodljivec's new series regarding Trouble Spots in PLO

    If you have any questions/comments for the coach please post them below
  • FlyingDutchm1n

    #2

    Great I just wanted to ask if you were really finished with your series but here is a new video already! Had to think this week "what would Skodljivec think of this?" 3 bet pot, hit top set 999 on a board 932 rainbow, opponent bets full pot, I raise full pot, turn is 2 we get it in...opponent has 2222 : /thanks for the new video Skodljivec!
  • Javito987

    #3

    wow, really helping videos you are making Skodljivec!! Congratulations
  • Mack0

    #4

    When we are willing to go broke with our AA** when should we bet/call and when should we x/r? What factors should we take into consideration?
  • Skodljivec

    #5

    Thanks for the feedback guys!

    @Mack0
    I think the best boards to c/r are those were people might expect you to just c/f, or the type of boards they might be very staby on. Also against some opponents you just can't go for a c/r cause they won't bet.

    The best board imo where you wanna c/r and it will often work are low twotone boards or stuff like J95rb that some people just can't help themselves by not stabbing there.

    The good think about a c/r is that it protects your checking range. That means that when you start c/r people, you can start checking medium strenght hands as people. People won't be likely to stab cause they will fear a c/r, so you will more often get a free card even OOP.

    So the main factors are:
    a) How likely is the opponent to stab that board
    b) How likely is the opponent to stab at all once you check to him.
    Regards,

    Skodljivec
  • Mack0

    #6

    Thank you. I am looking forward to your next video. Maybe you could make a video about how different ranges hit different boards and how to exploit it. You could also make a video about playing your draws in multiway pots both in and oop.
  • Mack0

    #7

    One more tu
  • FlyingDutchm1n

    #8

    Hi Skodljivec, thanks for the video. I must admit though I don't fully agree with your statements which you have made throughout your videos that the spr will be lower vs multiple opponents. In general, if you have a 3 opponents with 100bb behind all in on the flop for example with already 100 bb in the pot, you just need to win 1 in 4 times so 25% equity to call break even but it's not an spr issue; spr is solely a HU measure, except in a 3 way pot with different stacksizes will SPR come into play, for example if one opponent has 30bb left, but me and the other guy have 100bb left, I will seriously need to consider and differentiate between the spr between me and the 30bb stack, but action will most likely continue between me and the other 100bb stack which has an entirely different spr of course with much higher required break even EV. Just saying that, unless I have misunderstood you and then I apologize, you cannot say in a multiway pot the spr gets lower, because it just does not (SPR stack to pot ratio, the word number of opponents is not a part of the term SPR).
  • Mack0

    #9

    1. :) one more thing about the x/r- isn't a J95 rb a terrible board for us? Unlike a low board like 763 rb most rundowns hit it very well, it is almost impossible for us to be ahead here.

    Why would you x/r this board rather than just x/f?

    2. What boards do you consider to be safest to cbet in 3bet pots with AA (apart from low twotone boards)? Which boards should we just x/f?
  • Skodljivec

    #10

    @FlyingDutchm1n

    SPR basically counts how many potsized bets are left. So SPR is counted as Effective Stacks / Pot Size. So the reason why the SPR is smaller in mw pots, is because the pot Size is bigger, yet the Effective stacks are the same. If i 3b to 12bb, and 3 players call, the pot will have 48bb. My remaining stack will be 88 bb's, so the SPR will be 2. However if my 3bet gets me only 1 caller, the pot will be 24bb, but my Stacksize will still be 88bb, so the SPR will be 4. If i'm missing your question, please tell me :).

    @Mack0
    1. It can be bad if we have AA72, but it can't be bad if we have some added equity. Like AAQT on that board is a very good c/r if we can do it. I just gave an example of a board people like to stab, not a board where we should go broke without any reads ;).

    2. Good qustion. I think it's hard to find a clear answer. With my AAxx, i love the 934rb, K75rb, boards with 1 high card and two low ones. Usually we are very good on those. I don't mind folding on Q96tt type boards with my AA sometimes. But it's much more opponent dependant. Perhaps vs a decent player you could x/f straight boards. Or perhaps something crazy drawy like JT6tt and 0 backup equity apart from your aces.

    Regards,

    Skodljivec
  • FlyingDutchm1n

    #11

    Hi Skodljivec, ok I thought you were trying to say something super groundbreaking so I think I read too much into it! : )
  • autheking

    #12

    Love the video, made a huge difference to my game. Please keep them coming.
  • FlyingDutchm1n

    #13

    I do wanted to ask you Skodljivec if you think in PLO flopping 999TT on a board T99 and being up against TTT99 is considered a cooler in PLO when straights and flushes also appear by the river (no overcards though to the T)? Or do you think it is really opponent dependent and/or a question of which hand is willing to go all in on this board apart from TT? Would love to hear your opinion on this matter. Kind regards, FDM
  • Skodljivec

    #14

    Hey guys thanks for the positive feedback.

    #13

    In general that's a big cooler. There are some cases where for example a tight player would pot the river that i wouldn't reraise, but i can't see a scenario i'm folding there when only 1 combo beats me.

    Regards,

    Skodljivec
  • FlyingDutchm1n

    #15

    Thanks for the answer Skodljivec, keep the videos coming I really enjoy them!
  • MrTrocks

    #16

    hey skod in min 5 u make an example where u 3b AA vs an thight villian who opens utg. is this ure standard line vs an tight utg range? i like to just call crappy AA and 3b good AA like AAQ9ds, AATKss etc
  • MrTrocks

    #17

    hey skod in min 42 where the opponent had 8T96 on the Flop K86Q against ure donk. Would u in his shoes just fold to the pot donk?
  • Skodljivec

    #18

    Hi MrTrocks,

    1) in min 5 i'm still doing the theory part, or am i missing something?

    2) it depends :) I think it's about what he thinks i'm capable off. Cause my hand does look like a semibluff to some extent. But without reads on myself, that i'm capable of doing that, i'd probably just fold as i'm flipping vs draws, but terribly behind vs better 2 pair.

    Regards,

    Skodljivec
  • Anarkii14

    #19

    I am very suprised how aggressively you play the AAxx hands on different boards. 75% of them I usually bet/fold or c/fold especially boards like K97 etc..always afraid of get-in. Maybe one of my big leaks why I am loosing player :(
  • Skodljivec

    #20

    #19

    A lot of players b/f too much with AA. And i mean a lot. Some go to the other extreme tough... It could be a leak in your game for sure.
  • Steinpilz0104

    #21

    Absolutly grest video, showed me another way to look at the situation in 3bet pot with AA; especially the odds...
    I missed a situation with a board 9JQ...
  • sirilidion

    #22

    I noticed all of the AAxx had at least some added equity from the side cards. Would you play AAxx with really crappy sidecards the same way or would you not 3 bet those?