Play Loose, Win Big - Defending The Big Blind In Practice

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The last part of the series is also about the last position at a poker table, and the one that is the most difficult to master - the big blind.

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  • smeker123

    #6

    Ok
  • GingerKid

    #7

    Hi I like your exploitative approach vs 50% bet size on wet boards, I think also that it is mostly weak showdown or bluff, because strong hands want to protect. Hand like 68o where you have weak pair and need protection I would rather attack him by raising since he is so weak, it is great to fold his equity (in cases where a hand needs a lot protection I would raise such capt range). Since you have showdown value I would bet F and T check river, probably even overbet turn, or raise F, bet turn, overbet river.

    Besides, it would be nice to say what kind of leaks villain has when you make such loose calls preflop, because the sample on villain is very low.
  • GingerKid

    #8

    First hand KQ, I would cbet F. Villain range is super capt. I am not sure what is standard defend SB vs sqeeze, but for SB it really sucks to call, I actually fold whole range vs BB sqeeze. Anyway if he calls something like weak PP for set mine, suited broadways, some AJ, AQ, then his range on F is super weak, so even though he might not overfold F, he will overfold on T or R.
    When you check F on such board, and turn blanks, you really don't rep anything (maybe in your range you have value hands but you don't rep anything which is the only thing most villain care about), so I would check again. Similarly I agree that on river you don't rep anything. Even though villain is likely a fish, I like his call on river with greatest blocker he can have.
  • GingerKid

    #9

    Q7o, F I would call F because on such wet boards you have very little FE unless villain folds his e.g. TP hands or cbets too loose on such board. Also your implieds are not good if you hit, which is important for EV calculation. When he calls, we can discard most of his strong hands, probably some strong draws on such board. I agree with check. River, imo it is a spew, you don't really rep any value hand, especially with min raise. Imo most of regs would snap call any showdown hand, and many would reraise bluffs. I agree that he will often have busted draw, but imo he could also bet with that size any good pair because you can also raise some pairs and play that way, and the chance that you have some strong hand in range is super low.
  • GingerKid

    #10

    QdJd, I like it a lot, I also do it with the same argumentation. Call turn would we -EV if you would not make such exploitative moves on the river. Imo, river raise might be better with smaller size, 3x should be enough. Raise vs river cbet is considered strong among reg, so imo villain would fold all of his one pair hands and bluffs, and strong hands he doesnt fold likely anyway vs 3x or shove (maybe but maybe not). I think that we have very similar playing style.
  • GingerKid

    #11

    Kc8h is similar as QdJd. I like raise river, I find it better to donk overbet river since villain will check back many Kx hands, also Ax, 2 pair and similar which is he likely going to fold vs 2x overbet. If I would have strong flush on river I would like to overbet donk it since I expect villain to check often on river, so Kcx is a good candidate to bluff. I am not sure if villain is going to fold vs raise weak flushes or vs overbet, I guess most would since the line looks super strong and is not use often as bluff at Nl100.
  • asimos

    #12

    #7 Hey!! How are you?

    68: well, you can raise... The problem is that you don't have a raising range usually at this board... I prefer to call my flush draws and my set combos are not too many.

    Additionally, you might make him fold equity, but this part of his range is going to improve ~12% (6 outs) by the turn... and he doesn't fold a flush draw imo (raising and attacking vs the flush draw could be a play, but with such a weak hand I would prefer to not make in principle the pot large --- or at least large on the flop)...

    Turn card and Villain's action on the turn is going to give us more info, so I prefer the call.

    Post flop leaks include stuff like, villain check-folds the flop a lot, or cbet to check-fold the turn a lot or fold vs flop raise a lot etc

    *sample in the re-player is not real... I keep my database as small as possible cause of low capacity ssd :)
  • asimos

    #13

    #8 KQ: villain has a capped range, but a good opponent knows he is capped so he would have decent defending frequencies (it;s not necessarily true that being capped= over folding in this case, i.e. he can call 3 streets with TT, AK, AQ no matter the board (just an example, I don' assume a range here) and fold the rest).

    I agree that vs most people best play is to 3 barrel (but I prefer to know the type of opponent before I decide).

    As played I think betting turn shoving rivers, although we don't rep a lot would work vs most people most of the times. (we could have some slow plays in our range)

    Folding 100% vs bb squeeze imo isn't good, cause bb can squeeze bluff wider than normal.
  • asimos

    #14

    #9 I assume that this particular Villain doesn't re-raise bluff with draws, so even if he calls with pairs, I think min-raising is +EV.

    Vs a thinking opponent I can't do that, cause I don't rep a lot indeed. But the concept of this video is to show that vs some people it doesn't matter what we rep... go ahead and do it :)

    We don't have fold equity on the flop, but I plan to bluff later. So EV of line: raise to bluff later may be higher than calling,... but I can't prove that... call is fine ..
  • asimos

    #15

    #10 smaller raise probably is better, I agree
  • asimos

    #16

    #11: K8, I don't like the donk bet on the river. Villain's range has more flushes than ours, and vs donk x2 I don't believe they fold flushes ever. Also we have some showdown value vs his check back range on the river.
  • GingerKid

    #17

    Hi asimos, I am good thanks, how are you? Thanks for the answers.
    "68: well, you can raise... The problem is that you don't have a raising range usually at this board..." Why would you not have raising range on low wet board IP? You can represent set, 2 pair, and some nut bdfd with overcards, also some weak pairs, GS, fd will have nice EV when raising IP. I would not have raising range only if I can't represent strong hand on the board, or very few hands.
  • GingerKid

    #18

    "KQ: villain has a capped range, but a good opponent knows he is capped so he would have decent defending frequencies". A good opponent would usually overfold on flop, because it is hard that he can have enough +EV defend combos OOP on such board and range. Surely, a good opponent could defend +EV and not overfold if his opponent has leaks and he is aware of them, but I don't think that this fishy guy is aware of it, or that he is a good opponent.
  • GingerKid

    #19

    "Folding 100% vs bb squeeze imo isn't good, cause bb can squeeze bluff wider than normal.". What hands do you think are +EV for SB to call vs sqeeze? Imo the position of SB sucks hard and has super capt range, bad pot odds, so imo it is totally fine if SB folds 100% range because BTN should defend vs sqeeze frequent enough so that BB can't sqeeze each combo +EV.
  • GingerKid

    #20

    "K8, I don't like the donk bet on the river. Villain's range has more flushes than ours" Ok the argument that we win some of the time once he checks back is important and is probably better to check river. Still i don't think that it matters if villain's range has more flushes. Still I would like to donk overbet nut flushes especially if you say that villains most likely don't fold flushes, because donking should be higher EV than checking (I expect low cbet on river on such runnout). If villain would turn some showdown hands into bluff and in fact have high enough bet % on this runnout, then I would check nut flushes because it would be max ev to check it.
  • asimos

    #21

    #17 sets are 66,22 (6 combos) (99 probably 3betting preflop depending how you construct your range), and 2pair 96s (2combos) 92s,62s debatable if you flat preflop.

    So yes, if you want to raise always with those you can decide which hands you want to put in your flop bluff raising range and if you want to merge raising range with 2nd pair type of hands or not. I am not saying it's not doable, but I don't prefer it :)
  • asimos

    #22

    #19 hard to say cause I need to know what is your flatting range from sb... you can construct this with many different ways... but I wouldn't do in such way to fold 100% vs squeeze, unless I exploit sth in particular
  • asimos

    #23

    #21 *Not prefer it but I might do it some times as well :)
  • Assassin85

    #24

    in general I like your approach which is to target and punish villians betsizing-tells which pretty much exactly shows directly their hand-strength, BUT I also think that you overdo it (sometimes)!!!

    vs (very) weakish regs at low stakes you might get away with this often enough, but even vs avg reg at NL100 you will get caught quite often in the long run with some of your lines, especially the raise flop, XB turn, raise river like on the T98s-4 (2x FD)-3o.
    as GingerKid already said, you rep just NOTHING and every hit will call you and if villian bluffed you incline him to rebluff you because your line looks exactly what it is, just a move.

    in my opinion you focus to much on villians betsize and range and don't think enough what you rep and makes sense. blocking potential nuts hands is fine, but not everything and a little bit worthless when you choose a line which the nut hands almost never would do.

    like QTo @T96s where you minR, XB Ks and then raise big vs 1/3 riverbet.
    you say that you can have all the flushs and straights, but I don't believe you!
    can't see you often there play MinR + XB with turned made hand and if so, you almost never raise your str8 then on the river with this sizing because nothing worse will call you.

    another example is your QJdd play.
    I also agree that turn call is only +EV if we plan to make some plays on specific rivers, but when you say you rep 44 on 4KJs-x-9 I hardly believe you.
    because 44 blocks nothing of his draw and needs some protection on this drawy board and therefore imo good turn XR and if we trap it, this is not the river I want to x/shove it because only KJ can/will herocall us and the rest folds or beat us.

    no offense at all and I like the idea and concept of your style and video, but in my opinion you are doing it a bit too much and not well enough constructed and maybe just got lucky how often you got away with it ;)
  • asimos

    #25

    #24 It's not things you do vs good players, but are you doing those things vs weak players? imo no.. and to identify vs who it works is an art :)
    Those plays are not based on what we rep.. and we are not balanced with those lines... they are based on exploiting weak players :)

    I take no offense bro :) I like to put things out there and get the feedback... gl at the tables