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$1 10man SNG - JTs on an interesting flop

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ytsoP
Joined: 15.07.2011

Villain was 15/10/0.0 (VPIP/PFR/3bet) Flop Cbet: 64%, Fold to Cbet: 60%, Call Cbet: 20%, Raise Cbet: 19%

IPoker, $1 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players

CO: 1,210 (8.1 bb)
BTN: 1,360 (9.1 bb)
SB: 1,230 (8.2 bb)
BB: 1,530 (10.2 bb)
MP1: 1,415 (9.4 bb)
MP2: 4,350 (29 bb)
Hero (MP3): 3,905 (26 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T J
MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 355, Hero calls 355, 4 folds

Flop: (935) 8 K 9 (2 players)
MP2 bets 701.25, Hero raises to 1,500, MP2 calls 798.75

Turn: (3,935) 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets 1,050, MP2 calls 1,050

River: (6,035) 8 (2 players)
MP2 bets 1,445 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: 6,035 pot
Final Board: 8 K 9 5 8
MP2 mucked and won 6,035 (3,130 net)
Hero mucked T J and lost (-2,905 net)

Should I have folded pre? I feel like I should have either got it in on the flop or turn (mainly turn).


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yep fold preflop. You can just shove flop when villain cbet this big. If he would bet around half pot I would like to raise flop and shove turn.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Hi,

Fold preflop! As played, flop is great, you want to get it in while you are ahead. You have a monster draw, you want to get it in now, you don't wanna see a blank turn as then your chances in the hand are greatly reduced. So, after villain cbets this big. Just re-raise shove.


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ytsoP
Joined: 15.07.2011

Originally posted by kurrkabin
Hi,

Fold preflop! As played, flop is great, you want to get it in while you are ahead. You have a monster draw, you want to get it in now, you don't wanna see a blank turn as then your chances in the hand are greatly reduced. So, after villain cbets this big. Just re-raise shove.

That's what I thought I should have done. Is playing J10s here completely wrong? Meaning, would you ever play it in that position?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Originally posted by ytsoP

Originally posted by kurrkabin
Hi,

Fold preflop! As played, flop is great, you want to get it in while you are ahead. You have a monster draw, you want to get it in now, you don't wanna see a blank turn as then your chances in the hand are greatly reduced. So, after villain cbets this big. Just re-raise shove.

That's what I thought I should have done. Is playing J10s here completely wrong? Meaning, would you ever play it in that position?

Stacks are too shallow to really call villain raise. Also we are in quite early position with shallow stacks behind who might 3bet shove quite loose.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Originally posted by ghaleon

Originally posted by ytsoP

Originally posted by kurrkabin
Hi,

Fold preflop! As played, flop is great, you want to get it in while you are ahead. You have a monster draw, you want to get it in now, you don't wanna see a blank turn as then your chances in the hand are greatly reduced. So, after villain cbets this big. Just re-raise shove.

That's what I thought I should have done. Is playing J10s here completely wrong? Meaning, would you ever play it in that position?

Stacks are too shallow to really call villain raise. Also we are in quite early position with shallow stacks behind who might 3bet shove quite loose.

Mr Ghaleon himself gave you a pretty good answer :) If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

There are a ton of shortstacks after you as well, so while this may be sometimes OK with deeper stacked fishier players behind you (this will still be very rare from this position in a SNG), their presence really ties our hands here.


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