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10FPP Two Overcards + Flush Draw in Multiway Pot

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Poker Stars 10FPP No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 1807667
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CO: t1455 48.50 BBs
BTN: t1460 48.67 BBs
SB: t2700 90 BBs
BB: t3025 100.83 BBs
UTG: t1500 50 BBs
UTG+1: t5010 167 BBs
Hero (MP1): t1455 48.50 BBs
MP2: t2850 95 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP1 with J :spade: Q :spade:
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero calls t30, MP2 calls t30, 1 fold, BTN calls t30, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: (t195) 2 :diamond: 3 :spade: 6 :spade: (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, BTN bets t195, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero?

PF: Thinking that I should have raised pre-flop to try to steal those early limps and / or steal pot post-flop with conti-bet.

F: Not sure if should have lead out or check-raise or check-call?

Love to hear peoples opinions on each line, and also raise sizes if so.


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Bzzz2906
Joined: 10.03.2010

QJs is a good hand in a multiway, so limp is not really bad, but raise is better.

Lead flop seems better to me. And barrel almost every turn, you have a lot of Fold Equity.
Passive approach oop with a draw is not a good idea. You usually don't have enough implied odds.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

lots of fold equity 6way on such a flop? doubt it :f_biggrin:
if i bet it would be just hoping that no one raises and i can set my price for the next card.


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Bzzz2906
Joined: 10.03.2010

Well, on a 632 board yes. You have two spades so there is less flush draw out there. And which hands hits this board ? 22+, 75, 74, 65-62, 54-52, 43-42, 43 + 6x 5x 4x 3x.
You're ahead of theses crappy hands (even against 53 !)

Therefore, you have good fold equity (it's most likely that everyone has K8o, J3o...) and good equity


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

i think we're likely to run into spades suited trash (most of which we dominate) or some random pair+gs (or pure gs who knows) or whatever pocket pair hands that they won't let go. :f_biggrin:


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Bzzz2906
Joined: 10.03.2010

QJs is ahead paire+gs.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

ahead by what, some 5%? :P anyway that's only the bad hands that they could call with.
we could also easily run into set+ obv :f_biggrin:

i'm just saying that there are so many hands that could have hit "something" that i just really really doubt we have enough fold equity 6way, even with a two barrel. 6way!
we get some if they are mostly reasonable players but i'm not sure that's a fair assumption.


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Bzzz2906
Joined: 10.03.2010

If they are not reasonable, it's clearly a bet for value.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

so we bet for value on the flop and if turn bricks (and our equity nosedives) we still second barrel?
may even have a very sick thin value bet on the flop 6way (not clear at all imo) but we actually have to fold a lot of turns.

anyway i rest my case here, am curious enough for judge's opinion already


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

i raise to 500 with 2 overs + fd (of course its not 100% clean) but with a little fe + invested chips already it should be really+ev!
then go broke or shove the rest on the turn!


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