Originally posted by Kyyberi
Shopping at mall is as exciting as sawing your foot off with a chainsaw. Without it running.
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Originally posted by Kyyberi
Shopping at mall is as exciting as sawing your foot off with a chainsaw. Without it running.
LOL, awesome 
maybe you could be kind enough as to tell us more since, as you can see, for men "what's the point" is a complete mystery. or maybe just don't bother, we won't get it anyway.
Originally posted by Tomaloc
Originally posted by Kyyberi
Shopping at mall is as exciting as sawing your foot off with a chainsaw. Without it running.LOL, awesome
maybe you could be kind enough as to tell us more since, as you can see, for men "what's the point" is a complete mystery. or maybe just don't bother, we won't get it anyway.
Maybe 3 tips each shopping session?
Originally posted by RasTweet
Originally posted by Tomaloc
Originally posted by Kyyberi
Shopping at mall is as exciting as sawing your foot off with a chainsaw. Without it running.LOL, awesome
maybe you could be kind enough as to tell us more since, as you can see, for men "what's the point" is a complete mystery. or maybe just don't bother, we won't get it anyway.Maybe 3 tips each shopping session?
Or maybe I wont bother cuz... you wont get it anyway ♦
Seems I ran into a pokerstrategist today on zoom ♦
PokerStars Zoom Hand #83579661195: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2012/07/20 1:17:23 ET
Table 'Weringia II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: stanko81 ($7.94 in chips)
Seat 2: beatrice1014 ($2.71 in chips)
Seat 3: vonki ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: Atlante2012 ($6.06 in chips)
Seat 5: anes.v. ($5.97 in chips)
Seat 6: jayceee16 ($2.86 in chips)
Seat 7: kakantzas ($3.73 in chips)
Seat 8: ZIr00 ($6.65 in chips)
Seat 9: Kantyze ($2.23 in chips)
beatrice1014: posts small blind $0.02
vonki: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to vonki [Qd 4d]
Atlante2012: folds
anes.v.: folds
jayceee16: folds
kakantzas: folds
ZIr00: raises $0.11 to $0.16
Kantyze: folds
stanko81: folds
beatrice1014: folds
vonki: raises $0.34 to $0.50
ZIr00 said, "hi vonki...makeing a video?"
ZIr00 said, "with twice t?"
ZIr00: raises $0.50 to $1
vonki said, "hehe no"
vonki: raises $4 to $5 and is all-in
ZIr00 said, "♦"
vonki said, 
ZIr00 said, "naughty girl"
vonki said, 
ZIr00 said, "leveling with me"
ZIr00 said, "gg"
ZIr00: folds
Uncalled bet ($4) returned to vonki
vonki collected $2.02 from pot
vonki: doesn't show hand
SUMMARY
Total pot $2.02 | Rake $0
Seat 1: stanko81 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: beatrice1014 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: vonki (big blind) collected ($2.02)
Seat 4: Atlante2012 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: anes.v. folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jayceee16 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kakantzas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ZIr00 folded before Flop
Seat 9: Kantyze folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Originally posted by vonki
Or maybe I wont bother cuz... you wont get it anyway ♦
fair enough 
what's with the 5bet? ♦
just4fun or saw weakness in his 4b?
Originally posted by vonki
Seems I ran into a pokerstrategist today on zoom ♦
A stupid one too.
Why can't they just shut their mouth,can't they go over themselves if they saw a coach? If there was a rec player or two at the table,maybe they'll google "video twicet" or "video vonki" and then poof. I know it doesn't happen often that they get concerned with this,but over time I think these things take effect.
not sure if there's anything wrong with me but it's fine with me if a fish wants to improve.
i mean, by this point just about everyone knows that there can be "method to madness" in poker. the "fish" just don't care for whatever reason.
maybe they don't find it fun to play solidly, or don't want to take the time to learn, or are too stubborn, whatever.
Originally posted by Tomaloc
not sure if there's anything wrong with me but it's fine with me if a fish wants to improve.i mean, by this point just about everyone knows that there can be "method to madness" in poker. the "fish" just don't care for whatever reason.
maybe they don't find it fun to play solidly, or don't want to take the time to learn, or are too stubborn, whatever.
I did say, "it doesn't happen often",but when it does,it hurts,because even if they learn a starting hand chart, they go from 50/3, to 20/10. And if they start to get ambitious...
How do you think the games got tough? I am sure the occasional berating or strat talking played SOME part.
But the bold part...if you really believe that...wow.
Originally posted by Tomaloc
Originally posted by vonki
Or maybe I wont bother cuz... you wont get it anyway ♦fair enough
what's with the 5bet? ♦
just4fun or saw weakness in his 4b?
haha just not sure he'd stop to talk if he had AA/KK or whatever, and his 4b size seems very unstandard for NL5 plrs 
Usually if someone thinks ur recording a video, they get FPS (fancy play syndrome)... overall wasnt buying the story he was telling
Originally posted by Ectoz
Originally posted by Tomaloc
not sure if there's anything wrong with me but it's fine with me if a fish wants to improve.i mean, by this point just about everyone knows that there can be "method to madness" in poker. the "fish" just don't care for whatever reason.
maybe they don't find it fun to play solidly, or don't want to take the time to learn, or are too stubborn, whatever.
I did say, "it doesn't happen often",but when it does,it hurts,because even if they learn a starting hand chart, they go from 50/3, to 20/10. And if they start to get ambitious...
How do you think the games got tough? I am sure the occasional berating or strat talking played SOME part.But the bold part...if you really believe that...wow.
well I obv dont want fish to improve either but its kind of irrelevant in zoom because everyone else had already folded so was just me and him
maybe it's that i don't really plan to go pro or anything like that so i just don't really care, if the games get tougher whatever, i'll just try to keep up and if i don't it won't be a big deal anyway.
as far as i'm concerned though i don't berate fish, talk strat or anything, much to the opposite ♦
Originally posted by Tomaloc
maybe it's that i don't really plan to go pro or anything like that so i just don't really care, if the games get tougher whatever, i'll just try to keep up and if i don't it won't be a big deal anyway.
as far as i'm concerned though i don't berate fish, talk strat or anything, much to the opposite ♦
yeah, i was thinking about that. i guess you have a right to feel annoyed at my attitude if you actually make a living/substantial side income out of this.
in that case i'll just have to tell you "whatever", but saying that i am being selfish is lol. that's obviously not the word, "apathy" is more correct.
also just to leave it clear, i hold no hard feelings against you due to this little "discussion". i'm fine if we just agree to disagree and meet sometime in the future.
Of course there are no hard feelings,just trying to make a point.
Just because I said what I said doesn't mean I hate you or I hold a grudge.
If the fish get better (as we KNOW they will over time), you just have to get better. Poker and life in general is about making adjustments. Those who succeed, know how to adapt and change as required.
Well teaching fish basics such as a SHC can actually led them to have a higher net deposit over the long term rather that just depositing busting out quickly and never playing again. Its basically the business model of pokerstrategy.com. Even with the free bankroll and wealth of information the vast majority of players who sign up through poker strategy end up being net depositors and that's why poker rooms have pokerstrategy as an affiliate.
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Also gl Vonki I enjoyed your videos with Twicet very much.
thnx steven!
hhaha, gotta love fish logic. Yes, your hand looks prettier on the turn but its not ♦ (apart from extra outs ofc)
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB)
($60.92)
Hero ($113)
Dealt to Hero K♥ K♣
Hero raises to $2.50, calls $1.50
FLOP ($5) 6♦ T♥ T♣
checks, Hero bets $3, raises to $7, Hero calls $4
TURN ($19) 6♦ T♥ T♣ 4♣
bets $51.42 (AI), Hero calls $51.42
RIVER ($121) 6♦ T♥ T♣ 4♣ 8♦
Hero shows K♥ K♣
(Pre 83%, Flop 91.7%, Turn 90.9%)
shows 4♥ 6♠
(Pre 17%, Flop 8.3%, Turn 9.1%)
Hero wins $120
had a pretty horrible weekend for reasons best unsaid, but I'm feeling better so will ease back into playing again
