jimmy21492

Good Job! Homework #7 Done!

About Question #3:
In this case, you decided to bet out yourself and two players behind you go all-in. You would have to invest $8.40 in order to participate in a $22 pot, which corresponds to an equity of 27.63%.

Board: Q:h 3:s 2:h
Dead:

Equity Win DrawLoss Hand
Player 1: 38.538% 38.538% 0.000% 61.462% 5h4h
Player 2: 14.540% 14.540% 0.000% 85.460% QQ+
Player 3: 46.921% 46.921% 0.000% 53.079% 22-33

You get the required odds even when you're exclusively up against very strong hands!

About Question #4:
Top pair / top kicker has been and will always be a hand that's tough to play, especially in a multi-way pot. In this case, you've hit a nice flop, but you're up against 3 opponents on a dry board which doesn't allow for any dangerous draws.

A fold on this board is, of course, too weak. You can't really hit much better and there might be worse Ax hands willing to pay you off.

If you think that your opponent(s) is/are often willing to go broke on the flop with worse hands, raising might not be the worst of choices. But one thing is clear: if you raise, you have to go all-in on the flop! Raise/fold with your top pair is absolutely out of question.

Even though this might leave a bitter aftertaste in a 4-way pot, you should play this like a way ahead / way behind spot here - by playing it passive, you will extract the maximum from weaker hands and bluffs while avoiding big losses against stronger hands.

Best of Luck on the Tables.

Originally posted by jimmy21492
Veriz I'd like your opinion on the following question from the Aces on multiway pots quiz

Question 5:
PartyPoker $10 NL Hold'em (10 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($10)
UTG+2 ($10)
MP ($10)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($10) (Type: Calling Station)
BU ($10) (Type: TAG)
SB ($10)
BB ($10)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A
Hero raises to $0.40, 5 folds, CO calls $0.40, BU calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.35) 3, 3, 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.00, CO folds, BU calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.35) J (3 players)
Hero...

bet/fold (0 Points)
bet/push (3 Points)
check/call (2 Points)
check/fold (0 Points)
check/raise (3 Points)

Your answer bet/fold (0 Points)
You've opted for the continuation bet and on the turn, you find yourself in another heads-up situation against the presumed TAG.

Board: Jd 7c 3h 3d
Dead:
Equity Win DrawLoss Hand
Player 1: 61.222% 61.222% 0.000% 38.778% AdAc
Player 2: 38.778% 38.778% 0.000% 61.222% QQ-KK, 77-88, 33, A7s, 43s, 43o
You could start thinking about balancing in this spot. If you check here, your opponent could try to steal the pot; you could also show that a check on the turn doesn't automatically mean that you're giving up your hand.

While check/call would also be possible in the light of a way ahead/way behind situation (you extract most value from weaker hands while minimizing losses against stronger hands), you are out of position and would thus have to count on another induced bluff on the river or have to suddenly donk-bet the last street yourself. All in all, bet/push and check/raise make more sense in this spot.

Don't you think that a raise in this situation would have us beaten?

Board: 3♦3♥7♣ J♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG+1  24.24%  24.24%   0.00% { AdAc }
MP1    75.76%  75.76%   0.00% { JJ, 77, 33, AJs }

this is the range i would put for an all in from this opponent.And i think AJs is pretty optimistic for him to have.

What do you think?

Could you please tell me in which quiz did you find it. Cause you are actually putting somewhat correct range and the pointed out range is rather wrong.

QQ-KK, 77-88, 33, A7s, 43s, 43o

QQ might be but KK rarely, and other weaker PPs most likely as 88 wont be raising on the turn but just calling nor A7. Nor he doesn't have 43o in his calling range if he is TAG.

So could you gimme the link and I will take a look and tell you exactly what I think of it. It might be that there is even a mistake, have found some mistakes myself in some quizzes.

Sure Veriz, thanks for the attention

This is the link to the quiz http://www.pokerstrategy.com/quiz/weekly/489/
and the doubt is on the question 5

Homework 8

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation.
Fr-Nl4-At

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members
NL5 3bet pot stack off

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$100 NL Hold'em (9 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100)
CO ($100)
BU ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8 , 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($8.50) 3 , 6 , 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50 BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19.50) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

I would certainly bet here. Hero has a made hand and want's to get money into the pot, other from that you want to protect your hand from a higher FD.I would bet here 3/4 of the pot.

BONUS Question 4 (optional question): Consider the following situation:

$200 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
MP3 ($207.45)
CO ($415.55) (TAG)
BU ($373.60) (TAG)
SB ($200.00)
BB ($218.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7 , 8
Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($72) 7 , 8 , 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: ($228) K (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

River: ($228) Q (3 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

This is a very hard question, I'am not very familiar to the SH game yet and that makes even more difficult for me to evaluate this hand. But i think if you assume the opponent range is QQ,KK,88 you will have to fold.I would put QQ KK and sometimes 88 on his range because i think this tipe of player could play the way he did with them(88 only if he 3 bet a lot PF), AA and AK I would not consider in his range because i think he would bet at least on turn for protection and value.So assuming that the tag player wouldn't play the way he did with other hands such as QQ-KK and some times 88 i would fold on the river.

Originally posted by jimmy21492
Sure Veriz, thanks for the attention

This is the link to the quiz http://www.pokerstrategy.com/quiz/weekly/489/
and the doubt is on the question 5

Totally agree with your thoughts there and I don't see really how the guy could end up there with something like 43o, A7 (doesn't raise the turn), KK (3bets preflop). So there is a lot of unrealistic range in the play and most likely Bet/Folding is definitely fine there unless we assume we are against a maniac or whatsoever aggressive guy. Thanks for reporting it, I assume it's some old content, I will try to take care of it.

Good Job! Homework #8 Done!

About Question #3:
In this case, the right answer is quite obvious. Both AF and WTS speak in favor of a check behind for bluff induce. But your hand is too strong here, so you want to get it all-in on the turn. There are a lot of hands you still have to protect against, too. Playing for bluff induce or pot control would simply be too weak and dangerous.

About Question #4:
About preflop play I'd say that it's still doable while we even are a bit deeper. I expect the hero to play solid postflop play. So Calling is definitely fine here with having 2 opponents in the hand and getting great implied odds. But for more beginners it's definitely a very close spot while they ain't gonna be able to lay down weak hands.

As we have the information that CO is a TAG player. Therefore, we expect him to have a strong 3bet range. Unless we have some other information like he has a wide 3bet range. But while we don’t have that, we basically consider his range to be something QQ+, AK or sometimes even tighter.

So now you have to ask yourself what kind of hands would play like this on river? KK may slowplay like this. QQ definitely is as well in his range. AK/AA he wouldn’t play this way since he know himself as well that he isn’t going to get Called by worse hands. So basically it’s up to the nuts most often. You only beat bluff there and I don’t expect the opponent to bluff in this case unless we know the table dynamics better.

Best of Luck in The Exam!

Good Job! Your exam is done and evaluated! Also you Passed! Congrats!

I would now advice to take a look at the No Limit Advanced Learning path. Which is located here: No Limit Advanced Learning Path. Although it's without any homework but it's still a path which will help you get the understanding of more advanced stuff. Although it may require higher ranks. Some may require even Gold status.

You are still welcome to use this thread for your progress and if you face any questions about your play/stats or anything you want to ask. Also don't hesitate to continue posting hands which I will be most likely evaluating.

About your exam:
You did take the exam really seriously and that's only good since the more seriously you take poker the more likely it will be that you invest enough time into to it to become a good poker player. I did really like the answers of yours. Although of course as most of the students you had also problems with the math tasks, needs still improvement. But well, it's more advanced part so I wouldn't really be worried about that! You did really great overall.

We most likely gonna continue evaluating your hands and of course your overall progress in this thread in future. We still have some leaks to fix.

In future we gonna concentrate more on your hands and try to fix some leaks which. Hopefully you gonna continue posting in the thread. We could take a look at stats and many different kind of things. Maybe even some mindset problem.

Do you have any questions about the exam?

Good Luck on the Tables and with the next learning Path. If you have any questions don't hesitate to hop in your Locker Room thread and ask or post your progress.