AQo huge multiway pot

Hi ChowChow12,

I am no expert but it seems to me you made the right move. Here's my thinking of the hand though. Since all the players called your x5 bet I doubt that they would have played T7 or 75 which eliminates the possibility of a made straight. That said there could be somebody with a draw, especially for the 7.

The pot odds demanded to you was 25% and your chance of hitting a A or a Q was 12.7% so even without the threat of a straight you're paying bad odds.

I'd say good fold

Chadwicked

Hello all,

Preflop:

Raise size is OK.

Flop:

Very easy fold here. There is no need to level our self and raise or call in situations like this one, only with over cards. Even if we was against one opponent and he donks like this one 1/2 of the pot I prefer folding our overs on this board.

Best regards,
Antoan

Originally posted by Chadwicked
Hi ChowChow12,

I am no expert but it seems to me you made the right move. Here's my thinking of the hand though. Since all the players called your x5 bet I doubt that they would have played T7 or 75 which eliminates the possibility of a made straight. That said there could be somebody with a draw, especially for the 7.

The pot odds demanded to you was 25% and your chance of hitting a A or a Q was 12.7% so even without the threat of a straight you're paying bad odds.

I'd say good fold

Chadwicked

Hi Chadwicked

I was reading one article about odds and everything, and I just wanted to be sure I understood it right, and looks like you know this topic better than I, can you correct me if I am wrong.
So I read that whenever the pot-odds are higher then the odds then it is profitable to stay in the hand. In this situation we have pot odds - have to call 400 in order to play 1600 chips it is 4:1, but the odds (non-outs:outs) we have 52 cards in the deck in total, so the non-outs are 52 minus five cards we know already(flop+our cards) minus 6cards(3 queens and 3 aces) it is 41 non-out, and we have 6 outs. 41:6 is about 7:1, so in this situation it is not profitable to stay in the hand.
Please correct me if I got it wrong somewhere,
thanks

Ohh and one more, I would love it if you could explain to me how did you get it in percentage. (I know how to get percentage out of 41:6(7:1) it is about 14,6%, but your resutls was 12,7% so maybe you are calculating everything a bit different.
thanks

Hi Benaars,

You got the pot odds correct, but just remember when playing tournaments and SnG the chips you lose are worth a lot more than the chips you could possibly gain. For this reason you need to demand great pot odds and avoid draws if possible.

As for percentages its all about preference. Some people like thinking in regards of ratios but I enjoy percentages. Here's my math for the percentages:

Pot odds: 400 is what you are committing to a pot of total 1600. 400 divided by 1600 = 25%. As for your outs, you have 6 outs of a total of 47 possibilities so 6 divided by 47 = 12.7%. However, you must note that when using percentages your chance of improving (in this case 12.7%) must be greater than the pot percentage (25%).

If you're pot and improving percentages are close to eachother ex: 25% and 26%, I would recommend not continuing the hand since the chips you may lose are worth more than the ones you may win. In cash ring games it is more acceptable to take close percentages but still be weary of larger hands like the straight draw in this example.

I hope that clears up some of your questions, if not shoot me a line.

Chadwicked

shouldn't pot odds be greater than hand odds when calling?

Depends which way you do the math. I like to do percentage of my outs versus percentage of the pot. In which case I want my out % to be higher than the % I am putting into the pot.

Make sense?