Kony76

Originally posted by Kony76
Well,

That damn downswing still here, even in SH. hehe

I am having some dificults in going to showdown with the strong made hands. And when I do it, I loose.

I really liked the game on the SH, but maybe I am not prepared for that. I am thinking in return to the FR for a while, and try the SH later.

I will crush it, but not now.

Maybe it is good idea to beat the NL10 FR first. HEHE.

Tks for your help, and I will be posting the 3BET pots for you to analyze and help me.

I would recommend that you watch my mental game videos that discuss variance in poker. They may be able to give you a better idea of what you could be facing.

FR may be a better choice if you are struggling with the variance in SH.

You can't run away from variance however FR variance is not as high.

Originally posted by Kony76
I am realy disapointed with my results.

I do not win one hand, when I play for the stack. The most incredible things are happening.

Of course, my game is not perfect, but it was profitable until one month ago. Since then I lost 1/3 of my bankroll.

I posted some hands in my blogue, is in portuguese, but if you want, you can see some hands here.
My blog

From the page 17, until the last, there are some hands of this downswing.

I gave a break last week, to take a deep breath and to think what to do.
So, I decided to go back to the FR, because is where I feel mopre confortable, and continue to climb the limits. Later I will try again the SH.

But yesterday, it was the first day after the break, and those kind of hands are still happening and I lost 2BI.

Here are 2 hands of the yesterday session.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG+2: $4.94 (98.8 bb)
MP1: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
MP2: $3.20 (64 bb)
MP3: $1.95 (39 bb)
CO: $2 (40 bb)
BTN: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
SB: $5.51 (110.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.47 (109.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, SB folds, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.62) K 6 A (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, BTN bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP2 folds

Turn: ($1.22) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.85, Hero raises to $1.70, BTN calls $0.85

River: ($4.62) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2.90, BTN calls $2.87 and is all-in

Results:

Spoiler

$10.36 pot ($0.43 rake)
Final Board: K 6 A 3 Q
BTN showed A A and won $9.93 ($4.86 net)
Hero showed 6 6 and won $0.00 (-$5.07 net)

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $13.76 (275.2 bb)
BTN: $7.93 (158.6 bb)
SB: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
BB: $2.16 (43.2 bb)
UTG+1: $3.60 (72 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $5.37 (107.4 bb)
MP1: $2.46 (49.2 bb)
MP2: $3.25 (65 bb)
MP3: $10.26 (205.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K K
UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, MP1 raises to $0.65, 6 folds, Hero raises to $1.80, MP1 raises to $2.46 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.66

Flop: ($4.99) 9 8 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($4.99) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($4.99) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$4.99 pot ($0.21 rake)
Final Board: 9 8 9 2 A
Hero showed K K and lost (-$2.46 net)
MP1 showed A Q and won $4.78 ($2.32 net)

Well, I was prfotable in nl10, and suddently I can't win even in nl5.
This lasts for more than one month!
What the hell is happening?
What can I do to revert this?

The main thing to do is stay positive (and see my last post regarding the videos).

The first hand you posted it's an unfortunate cooler. If you were to reverse the roles you know that the money would come your way.

In the second hand we get the money in as a favorite against a mid stack but don't hold up. Unfortunately in the short term the variance for these plays can be high (as you are experiencing now).

Stay positive and always make sure you are making the correct play regardless of the result.

During such times it's easy for you to start making bigger and bigger mistakes (playing looser in hopes of making money back, playing tigther because you are afraid to lose more, etc).

So make sure you review your game and post hands for evaluation. You can also attend our weekly Sunday No-Limit Special [Beginner] coaching ( http://www.pokerstrategy.com/coaching/176692/ )

thanks Bogdan for your coment.

For sure I will see your videos to help my mindset.

This month started very well, in 2 sessions I won almost 9BI, but then came a bad session, where I lost 4.

But anyway for now it is still positive.

later I will post here my stats.

I am playing now NL5 FR, but I already played NL10 FR, and I was beating the limit, until this downsiwing arrived.

So, If I was beating NL10, and I think that my game is better now, because it is always improoving, for sure I will Beat NL5 again and return to the NL10 shortly.

The negative variance has to give me a break.

By the way, I am studying now the best moments to 3bet pré-flop (besides QQ+ AK+), and and the best spots to raise/3bet after flop.
Best hands to do it with wich kind of players, etc.

Can you help with this? Where can I have more stuff to learn?

Well,

Today I finished the Lesson 2: Game Basics from Preflop to the River, of the advanced learnibg path.

I already had read the articles before, but at the second time, I focused in another themes, that at the first read I did not.

Well, the advanced learnig path is going slowly, but is going. hehe

And now I got a turbo bust and finished the lesson 3, of the advanced learning path. hehe

In the quiz I got 67%. I think is not bad.

Originally posted by Kony76
thanks Bogdan for your coment.

For sure I will see your videos to help my mindset.

This month started very well, in 2 sessions I won almost 9BI, but then came a bad session, where I lost 4.

But anyway for now it is still positive.

later I will post here my stats.

I am playing now NL5 FR, but I already played NL10 FR, and I was beating the limit, until this downsiwing arrived.

So, If I was beating NL10, and I think that my game is better now, because it is always improoving, for sure I will Beat NL5 again and return to the NL10 shortly.

The negative variance has to give me a break.

By the way, I am studying now the best moments to 3bet pré-flop (besides QQ+ AK+), and and the best spots to raise/3bet after flop.
Best hands to do it with wich kind of players, etc.

Can you help with this? Where can I have more stuff to learn?

Hi Kony,

Once you hit the gold level there are a few videos that are dedicated to 3-betting and how to play these spots overall.

In the meantime I suggest you ask any questions you have here or post hands in the evaluation forums that deal with 3-betting.

Merry christmas

Originally posted by Kony76
Merry christmas

Sorry for the delayed reply, I was quite busy with the holidays

Happy new year and keep us posted on your progress.

Hi bodgan.

I reched the NL10 again. Finaly that downswing has gone. hehe

I intriduced to my game some light 3bet and semi-bluffs.
There where some of them where I lost, but I noticed that in those tables where I missed the semi-bluffs with showdown, I was able to extract more value from the goos hands.

So maybe a missed bluff from time to time could be seen as an investment, and not a loss. hehe

Here are my stats from the last 20k hands.

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What do you think?

Hey Kony,

Congrats on reaching 10nl

Could you post the same stats but by position (or the up to date stats)?

It would show a lot more than overall. For example we could see how your PFR/3-bet/etc is split by each position.

From what I can see your WTSD% is on the higher side and as a result you don't win enough at showdowns (W$SD%). It could be variance but it may also be because you bluffcatch too light, don't bluff enough (check down), or simply bet in the wrong spots and get called.

I notice that your SB Raise First is larger than the BTN. Do you think that make sense to steal more OOP rather than in the best position possible? I would be curious to see how much money you are losing in the SB.

Originally posted by BogdanPS
Hey Kony,

Congrats on reaching 10nl

Could you post the same stats but by position (or the up to date stats)?

It would show a lot more than overall. For example we could see how your PFR/3-bet/etc is split by each position.

From what I can see your WTSD% is on the higher side and as a result you don't win enough at showdowns (W$SD%). It could be variance but it may also be because you bluffcatch too light, don't bluff enough (check down), or simply bet in the wrong spots and get called.

I notice that your SB Raise First is larger than the BTN. Do you think that make sense to steal more OOP rather than in the best position possible? I would be curious to see how much money you are losing in the SB.

Well that is a leak that I was trying to fix, but I guess I forgot that again. HEHE.
I think that is the psicological thing that is only one player left. But I know it is wrong, I will try to change that.

This stats include a parta of that 30khands downsiwng, so it could have some influence of the variance and/or of some bad game

i will post later the stats by postion.

tks

Here are the stats.

First I will post the stats before the downswing.

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This are the stats after the downswing.

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And here are the overall stats with all my hands played until now, tha is the hands before the downswing + the hands after the downswing.

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Hi Kony,

One thing that I see here is that you were playing more hands during your "downswing" as you went from 13/9 to 18/15. That's a pretty significant jump which most likely placed you in a lot more scenarios postflop that you were not 100% ready to face (we rarely are 100% ready to face challenges when making changes).

Your aggressiveness went up and your 3-bet in the blinds. I do see that you don't 3-bet hardly enough in position (BTN and CO).

There's a lot of small things I can notice here but of course we can also experience some sort of variance since the sample is small.

What do you think were some of the major changes you have made during this period?

Well,

The downsiwing was envolved in a few things, that may increased his size and efects.

During the downswing, at the begining of it, I tried the SH (Now I am back to FR, again). I also was trying to improove may game, playing some new hands, and studying the 3bet light. There were so many new things, that for shore, were not good and helped a lot that downswing.

Now I am winning again at NL10, I reduced to 4 tabes (used to play 6), to be more focused and to try to improove the semi-bluff ant 3bet light.

This month I am playing 18.6/14,5/4.63 (VPIP/PFR/3bet), and the results are getting better. Let's hope that this results appeared from my imprrovement and not from positive variance. hehe.
In the next mont, I am planing to play 6 tables again.

Do you think that the gap VPIP/PFR is to big? Am I calling too much?

Hi Bogdan,

I took a look at my databes, and OR range, and made one OR for me, taking in considerarionthe amounto of BB won/lost in each position, and the concluison is this OR range:

UTG: TT+; Aks; Ako
UTG1: 99+; AQs+; AKo
MP1: 88+; AJs+; AQo+
MP2: 66+; ATs+; AJo+; KQs
MP3: 66+; ATs+; ATo+; KJs+
CO: 44+; A2s-A5s, ATs+; ATo+; KJs+; KJo; QTs+; QTo+; JTs;JTo; 98s+
BU: 22+; A2s+; A7o+; KTs+; KTo+; QTs+;QTo+; JTs; JTo; 87s+
SB: 22+; A2s+; A9o+; KTs+; KTo+; QTs+;QTo+; JTs; T9s+

I have some doubts about the SB range, seems too big.

Of course this is not stricted, it will change depending ond the opponentes.

What do you think?

Originally posted by Kony76
Well,

The downsiwing was envolved in a few things, that may increased his size and efects.

During the downswing, at the begining of it, I tried the SH (Now I am back to FR, again). I also was trying to improove may game, playing some new hands, and studying the 3bet light. There were so many new things, that for shore, were not good and helped a lot that downswing.

Now I am winning again at NL10, I reduced to 4 tabes (used to play 6), to be more focused and to try to improove the semi-bluff ant 3bet light.

This month I am playing 18.6/14,5/4.63 (VPIP/PFR/3bet), and the results are getting better. Let's hope that this results appeared from my imprrovement and not from positive variance. hehe.
In the next mont, I am planing to play 6 tables again.

Do you think that the gap VPIP/PFR is to big? Am I calling too much?

Glad to see you are back to your winning ways. Of course variance will always have a say over a small sample.

The VPIP/PFR gap seems ok but it really depends on the type of games you play and how you call from each position.

You can always set up filters to see how you are doing when calling a raise preflop.

Originally posted by Kony76
Hi Bogdan,

I took a look at my databes, and OR range, and made one OR for me, taking in considerarionthe amounto of BB won/lost in each position, and the concluison is this OR range:

UTG: TT+; Aks; Ako
UTG1: 99+; AQs+; AKo
MP1: 88+; AJs+; AQo+
MP2: 66+; ATs+; AJo+; KQs
MP3: 66+; ATs+; ATo+; KJs+
CO: 44+; A2s-A5s, ATs+; ATo+; KJs+; KJo; QTs+; QTo+; JTs;JTo; 98s+
BU: 22+; A2s+; A7o+; KTs+; KTo+; QTs+;QTo+; JTs; JTo; 87s+
SB: 22+; A2s+; A9o+; KTs+; KTo+; QTs+;QTo+; JTs; T9s+

I have some doubts about the SB range, seems too big.

Of course this is not stricted, it will change depending ond the opponentes.

What do you think?

It looks like a good way to start. I'd probably add at least AQs to the UTG range.

We can even increase the UTG ranges when we have fish in the blinds to include ATs+, AQo, KQs, etc.

As far as the rest goes the BTN range can be even looser (for stealing) and SB looks fine overall.

I will add de Aqs to the UTG range, and nore hands like Ax and sc to the btn range.

Of course this is only a guide. With fishes on the blinds, the OR range will increase, also if I have fishes calling stations on the right, that open limp a lot.


This month is going well in NL10 until now. I played only 4 tables and get good results, something like 15bb/100. hehe. But I know that is very dificult to maintain this winrate.

On february I will play 6 tables again. This is the amount o tables I usualy play.

Let's see if I get my first month with a 3 digit profit soon

And now I will continue introducing the 3bet light and semibluffs, I will post some habds of this situations.