honky shotting zoom200

Hi Erik, hi Pleno

I really dont know why I chose that crazy name ♦

I didnt do any review afterwards, because i was in a bad mood and wanted to be away from poker after that dropping (yeah mindset.. ). Today I did some theory and watched some of my played hands. I guess a main problem is fighting against so many pots. For example my 3bet-stat was way too low (58% i guess) and i made a lot of bad 4bet-bluffs (without blockers) and calldowns/bad postflop bluffs. My redline was breakeven after the first 2k hands and dopped continiously the next thousands of hands. I think that more players on 200 play a solid abc-style than i thought and on th other side there are some weak/fishy-players, so its not neccessary to go crazy.

@Pleno: I read you played zoom200 and 500 for a while. Do you think its possible to achieve a solid winrate by playing good standard-poker on 200? I am not sure whether I have to make some adaptions, or can go on grinding my 20/17/6 style at first.

I had a short session some minutes ago, ending up break-even because of 3-Bluff-barreling in 3bet pot and watching the money moves to opponents set. I think it was a bad bluff, but excluding that one it was okay.

@Erik: I guess I feel the most uncomfortable when nothing works, I always have to/should to fold and get the feeling of being punished by the others. I cant really be objective in those cases, but still go on grinding, because i want to chase. Another point is the overall situation. I am not sure of beating the new limit or wasting my money.
I think I dont really accept the fact of being down because of badluck, While playing Im thinking it has to get better the next xk hands and I just have to go on. I hate the feeling of quitting after dropping 10 stacks and have to get some money back. I subsconsciuosly know that i dont play my best game, but the thoughts of claiming back my luck are in foreground.
In the case I'm winning quickly some stacks, I am afraid of loosing it and because of that pressure I maybe start playing worse than before.

Yeah, especially if you want to have aspirations of moving to 500 then its important we think out side of the box, don't auto fold our bb when UTG opens and think of creative ways to win pots. Anyway, we don't want to play tight, we are 6max soldiers and we will destroy the regs ♦

Ill be working on it

Had another short session.. and got some hands:

Villian: 29/9, c-r flop 33% (1/3)
I think he would open JJ/TT, so his range belongs to 33, JT, maybe Jx and some draws/bluffs. The main value comes from draws, Jx and bluffs, so I want to have the equity-shift, let him commit on the turn and ship any non- . Going broke on the flop maybe better, because there are some scarecards for a single J?

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Hand abspielen

$1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$310.73:///////;SB$425.90:///////;BB$211.68:///////;MP2$161.00:///////;MP3$200.00:///////;CO (Hero)$200.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is CO with K:c, K:h.
MP2 calls $2.00, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $8.00, 3 folds, MP2 calls $6.00.

Flop: ($19) 3:h, T:c, J:c (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $14.00, MP2 raises to $28.00, Hero calls $14.00.

Turn: ($75) 5:d (2 players)
MP2 bets $48.00, Hero raises to $164.00(All-In), MP2 calls $77.00(All-In).

Final Pot: $364.

Another situation vs laggy-reg. 27/23/8. He raised cbets 2/3 times.
I think he would barrel a flushdraw, so he is not repping that much on the river. I think the fact is interesting that he is raising 33 in this spot. So his raising-range probably is very (too) wide. Whats the best way to exploit it. Only bet for value and call down? Moving back air-hands too?

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Hand abspielen

$1/$2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$26.47:///////;SB$844.30:///////;BB$201.00:///////;MP2$327.57:///////;MP3 (Hero)$324.40:///////;CO$246.89:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:c, K:h.
MP2 folds, Hero raises to $6.00, CO calls $6.00, 3 folds, 2 folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($15) 7:d, 4:c, 9:d (2 players)
Hero bets $10.00, CO raises to $30.00, Hero calls $20.00.

Turn: ($75) 9:c (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($75) 6:d (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $62.00, Hero calls $62.00.

Final Pot: $199.
Results follow:

CO shows two pairs, nines and threes(3:c 3:h).
Hero shows two pairs, kings and nines(K:c K:h).

Hero wins with two pairs, kings and nines(K:c K:h).

1. I didnt do any review afterwards, because i was in a bad mood and wanted to be away from poker

2. I am not sure of beating the new limit or wasting my money.

3. I am afraid of loosing it and because of that pressure I maybe start playing worse than before.

Hey!

Great work so far

1. This will always be something that will make post session analysis harder. Facing the issue head on and know that the worse you feel, the better you will feel after doing it and it also helps you let go of a bad session. But you will have to learn the practice of will powering your way through the negative emotions. We do that by practicing it every single day. We might not be able to when we have our worst session, but on the good and ok/slightly bad one we can. Then we practice on those until you improve on that skill. You have to change or get better at it by putting in the work. Because there will always be another bad session, the game wont change. You have to

2. Same here, talk with other regs or a strategy coach about what they think is lacking in your game. If you in fact are. When you know pick the number one issue and put you heart and soul into that particular area until you feel comfortable and strong in all areas of it.

3. Can you explain a bit more about this? Why do you think you are putting so much emphasis on short term result when we know that we have so little control over it?

Basically all of that can be summed up with. Work hard!

Cheers!

Hi honkytonky, I hope you are well?

Just a nudge to encourage you to keep your thread current.

Perhaps post how you are getting on with Erik's suggestions?

Have fun,

Mal.

KK hand:
My first question when you flat flop would be, are there any turn/rivers on which you plan to fold. Because if not, then waiting for the "equity-shift" really isn't doing you much good.
The advantage of calling is that your opponent might continue betting with a hand that he was checkraise folding on the flop like 89 Q9 KQ or a weak flushdraw. In any case, I think your play is fine, but not sure the reason you stated is very relevant.

Your adjustment vs an opponent who is bluffraising these kind of flop-textures in position should be to cbet less air vs him, and when you do cbet air like Adx or Kdx with a blocker, 3bet his raise. Of course you will also be calling down lighter, as his range for raising isn't just sets and flushdraws, and he will probably continue bluffing flush cards often, so it's going to be hard to fold an overpair vs him even if a 3flush comes.

Take all this with a grain of salt however as he knows you caught him being out of line and might adjust the way he plays vs you, so you should pay attention to that.

Hey guys,

Thx for your answers!

@bob: there are not really any cards i can fold to, so youre point makes more sense than mine. I saw lots of minraises with hands like toppair, so maybe getting it in on the flop might be better to avoid scarecards for Jx?! What are your experiences with facing minraises?

Ps. currently i am on skiing vacation, so no time for poker, but in a couple of days i will go on working to become a soldier

Regards

Friendly bump

Hi soldier, you gone awol on us?

How is the course going for you? More on the fun side, how was the skiing?

Hi gadget =),

skiing was great!!! Always love it

I focused a lot on theory and the material delivered during the bootcamp, the last weaks and so I didnt have any spetacular grinding experiences I could be posting. I decided to start the big grind after the bootcamp and I am excited to test my new knowledge on a solid samplesize.