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Against loosepassive fish, He c/c all streets with flopped flush some hands before this one. Can we valuebet river with the info we have? Maybe bet 250 and fold to a shove?

Microgaming - €20+2|20/40 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 1,080
SB: 1,920

SB posts SB 20, Hero posts BB 40

Pre Flop: (pot: 60) Hero has Q♥ Q♠

SB calls 20, Hero raises to 120, SB calls 80

Flop: (240, 2 players) 5♥ K♣ 4♥
Hero bets 100, SB calls 100

Turn: (440, 2 players) 9♦
Hero bets 100, SB calls 100

River: (640, 2 players) 9♠
Hero checks, SB checks


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yoshiwa
Joined: 23.02.2009

From this and the previous post I notice you think on a 'street by street' level.
This gets you into some spots where you have very tough decisions because of the stacksizes , while if you would have planned the hand differently , you would have a 'clear' spot

On this hand: I'd isolate bigger to atleast 4 bb.
Its tough to plan the hand on the F because i have no dynamics or limpcall ranges and stuff , but in general , I would bet F and T and then because he is a loosepassive bet the R.
But again b-f is such a shame because of stacksizes.

ch-c is an option vs a aggro villain

general remark: the betline you took now screams to me you have QQ-TT, sometimes 66-88.
Kx you would bet bigger to protect , same with sets , and Fd you would bet bigger to get FE

If we would have isolated to 4bb:

F: 320
cbet 240

T: 800
shove T

-> this way you max your value vs fd , PP , ...
-> this renders villain unable to read you , your range might be Kx , fd , PP, but he can only guess what exactly is in your range.


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Yeah i know i play my hand face up this way, But i dont think we need to balance against fish who does not think on that level anyway.


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yoshiwa
Joined: 23.02.2009

Originally posted by raise2much
Yeah i know i play my hand face up this way, But i dont think we need to balance against fish who does not think on that level anyway.

very good remark !
Thats also why it was only the second reason ;)


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