ATo - 2nd pair facing huge overbet-shove on turn

Originally posted by Yuris125
Hi,

It's been a while since I played, it goes in circles: my interest in poker goes up, I play for a few months, then a downswing starts, I get frustrated and stop for while At the moment I'm trying to get in the game again, and this weekend I played in one of the Micromillions events

I had a rush of good hands at the start of the tournament and doubled the starting stack. Then the hands stopped to come. I managed to maintain the stack size between 10 and 20BB, and crawled into the money. Then I pushed with 22 and won a flip to get out of the danger zone. Then this hand happened

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800.00/t1600.00 Blinds, t200.00 Ante - 9 players - View hand 2146733
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UTG: t2943.00 1.84 BBs
Hero (UTG+1): t30246.00 18.90 BBs
UTG+2: t30468.00 19.04 BBs
MP1: t25385.00 15.87 BBs
MP2: t34417.00 21.51 BBs
CO: t67143.00 41.96 BBs
BTN: t54672.00 34.17 BBs
SB: t24072.00 15.04 BBs
BB: t34251.00 21.41 BBs

Pre Flop: (t4200) Hero is UTG+1 with A♣ T♥
1 fold, Hero raises to t3200, 6 folds, BB calls t1600

Flop: (t9000) T♠ 8♥ Q♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t9000) 3♦ (2 players)
BB bets t30851.00, Hero calls t27046 all in

River: (t62692) 6♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Villain unknown, only have 29 hands on him, didn't have even that when the hand was played, so no usable stats

Preflop - I think my stack is too big to ship, and folding would probably be too tight. So went for a standard minraise

Flop - I make a hand, albeit a rather weak one. With most hands I would c-bet this board, but I didn't think a bet would achieve much here. I don't see better hands folding; he might call with a draw or a weaker T, but I thought it was unlikely. Also, how do I respond to a check/raise? Bet/call would be overplaying the hand - but bet/fold is too weak, I think he usually check/raises with a weaker hand. So I decided to check behind for pot control, call a bet on a blank turn and re-evaluate the river

Turn - Well, here goes the pot control plan. On the flop I would've been very uncomfortable calling a check/raise and playing for stacks with this hand. But here I considered this bet for a while, and decided that there are very few value hands with which he would make this bet. There are still 2 streets, and if he makes a normal-sized bet (like 7500), he can make a much more reasonable shove on the river. A straight, a set, even a pair of Queens - probably none of these hands warrants such a huge overbet. Maybe a silly 2-pair hand, like T8? However, my feeling was that he was putting my on Ace-high, and wanted to push me off that. That meant that he had a hand worse than Ace-high - a gutshot, a flush-draw, or even a pure bluff. And because of this, I decided it was a call

I suspect I could've made different decisions on every street What do you think, how would you play this hand?

Result under spoiler

Thanks!
Yuri

Spoiler

BB shows 4♥ 7♣
Hero shows A♣ T♥
Hero wins t62692.00

Hey Yuris,

Well come back!

Here I would have play this hand like this:
I raise pre-flop around 3,600/3,700 (but 3,200 it's perfectly fine).
I would play the flop like you but I would do that to induce a bluff, so for me it's a snap on the turn.

On the turn you beat a T with worse kicker, a 8, a flush draw and every bluff, and his shove on turn could means two things or on the flop he was waiting for your c-bet to check-raise, so he has something like KQ, 88, 33, J9, maybe 2 pairs, flash draw sometimes KJ and Q9. Or he is on a bluff.
I call here if I know that he's capable of doing this on a draw or on a bluff at least 25% of the times (and on microlimits they all are! =)).

You don't see him with a big hand bc he push (and for you it would be the wrong action with a strong hand), but if he had a big hand he would probably be scare of straight or flush draws, especially in microlimits, and he could over-shove turn.

I also think that a bit of the decision depends from bubble factors as well, I don't know the buy-in, the payouts and I don't know your position!

So very nh imo

Regards

Marce

Hey Yuris!

I def. cbet this board!
You get value of gutshots, openenders, fds, worse 10x hands... Imo a very clear cbet!

As played nice cal... This shoves makes absolutely no sense

Greets,
Tiltberger