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Originally posted by imfromsweden007
It's probably true for most board textures, but maybe especially dry textures such as Q32 he seems to be raising a lot of hands where most people just float. I would sometimes fight back by 3betting flop, but usually I would just call and then decide turn, sometimes c/f, c/r some turns, alternatively call again and donk some rivers or whatnot. Reason is that it's hard for us to have that many legitimate hands that we really want to 3bet/get it in on the flop, so I think he will play quite well vs that. So I would mainly float but sometimes mix it up.

yeah, this sounds very good to me - thx for the input^^

what do you guys think about spots when we have TPGK and get raised? I have hard time with these situations, because if I 3bet he can play perfectly and fold every bluff and get it in every better hand that mine.

for ex.: I raise AQs MP, he flats BU, flop came Q87s, I cbet he raises, I just go for 3B/broke?

example 2: I rase AA UTG, he flats BB, 628s what should we do? just bet/get it in?

example 3: same situation UTG AA, but he flats on BU, 628r bet/get it in? or start check/calling? Should we create a good x/calling range or just go with it banggg boom boom let's see what happens

one more question: I had a very very strange hand (100bb eff.) , so it was something like this: I openraised SB and this reg calls, flop Q48s I cbet with KQ, and he raised me, I didn't want to calling OOP so decided a small raise (5bb cb, he raises 15bb, I raise it up 32bb, and he raises to ~48bb...

And my problem is this: I don't think this would be EVER a bluff, or EVER a draw, because with draws he want to have FE so he would just go for a shove, and he would never bluff in spot like this I guess. So really I just wanted to fold even it is sounds stupid... But I was like why would I turn into a bluff my value hand and just crying shoved, but ofc he had me crushed. What do you think?

Sorry I couldn't find the hh, but keep lookin'

@ your 3 examples:
Its pretty vague, but as a default my line OTF with those posis would be B/C regards to all 3 spots...

@you additional spot:
also here you wanna B/C cause you have lots of weaker TPs and 2ndpairs in your range, you only wanna B/C- so do the same with your strong valuehands as a default and with some draws....

as played,
your 3b OTF does not rep a lot, so he might still xlick it back as a bluff - I think as palyed you have to eihter re-click it back and hope he spazzes or calling the flop and reevaluate OTT....

Originally posted by IronPumper
@ your 3 examples:
Its pretty vague, but as a default my line OTF with those posis would be B/C regards to all 3 spots...

@you additional spot:
also here you wanna B/C cause you have lots of weaker TPs and 2ndpairs in your range, you only wanna B/C- so do the same with your strong valuehands as a default and with some draws....

as played,
your 3b OTF does not rep a lot, so he might still xlick it back as a bluff - I think as palyed you have to eihter re-click it back and hope he spazzes or calling the flop and reevaluate OTT....

In the 3 examples do you ment by B/C, playing turn? What would you do on different turns? Because if you flat the raise OOP w AQ on Q78s, it's going to be really difficult on flush turn, or on 9, T, J, 6, even he can check back turns and get free card.

Originally posted by Lackoogcb

Originally posted by IronPumper
@ your 3 examples:
Its pretty vague, but as a default my line OTF with those posis would be B/C regards to all 3 spots...

@you additional spot:
also here you wanna B/C cause you have lots of weaker TPs and 2ndpairs in your range, you only wanna B/C- so do the same with your strong valuehands as a default and with some draws....

as played,
your 3b OTF does not rep a lot, so he might still xlick it back as a bluff - I think as palyed you have to eihter re-click it back and hope he spazzes or calling the flop and reevaluate OTT....

In the 3 examples do you ment by B/C, playing turn? What would you do on different turns? Because if you flat the raise OOP w AQ on Q78s, it's going to be really difficult on flush turn, or on 9, T, J, 6, even he can check back turns and get free card.

yeah, I meant by B/C you call the raise and play turns - will not go into "what i would do on diferent turns" cause this is not only vague (that is not the prob), butalso a very big topic and also dependent on personal gameplans on which I do not wanna elaborate too much here, tbh..

Just think about why I have recommended to B/Call OTF (cause you would play many hands of your range by B/C OTF) and then think on any turncard again bout your whole range and evaluate what`sbest for your range and where are you given your range with certain holdings... make such exercises as well offgame...

and yeah,
not too rarely, the easiest reaction-lines are neither
a.) in the vacuum the most +ev ones
nor
b.) for your whole range the best lines.

Think abt starting positions, preflop hand ranges, and relative hand strength and flop ranges.

In later positions preflop ranges are wider, your bet range is widrr and thus your opponent's raising range is wider. You would then 3bet wider and he is forced to jam the flop wider for thin value with somr top pair hands. Thus , overpairs or tptk hands start to increase in relative hand strength in later positions.

thanks guys! helped me a lot!