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Gameplan in BB vs CO 3X openraise.

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yegon
Joined: 23.02.2012

EDIT: lol why was I thinking this was BTN vs CO??? I will leave it here just note that I missread positions. Now that I realized it is BB vs CO I like Internets ranges, maybe would ditch 99 from 3bet range, only 3bet bluff suited hands and not call as wide cause I am not such a boss postflop

feel free to comment though if you see mistakes in my logic even though its about different positions
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my understanding is that we should:
- 3b wider for value if villains opening range is wider (so for example a value 3bet vs BTN 50% open should be wider than that vs 25-30% CO open)

- 3b wider for value if villain is more likely to call than to 4bet (so again blinds vs BTN where we expect more calls because villain is IP as opposed to BTN vs CO)

Now I am 3betting and stacking off AQ,TT blinds vs BTN, I am using the same SO range BTN vs CO but i wonder if it would make more sense polarizing more and only 3bet AK/JJ for value + add some small pairs to use as a 5bet bluff there (their equity is the same as 99 there basically). What do you guys think?

blinds vs BTN I also add value hands to my 3b range that I am not planning on stacking off pf like AJs/KQ

again BTN vs CO where I expect much fewer calls I like to be more polarized and call with these hands rather than 3bet them (this will of course change if villain defends a lot by calling even OOP - but I need to have that read)


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PokerIsBadBeat
Joined: 17.06.2010

My 3 bet range always depends on 3 factors : %open, %fold to 3 bet after raise and % fold to conti bet in 3 bet pot.

Internet, you gave us your 3 bet range and cold calling range assuming CO will open 30% of his hand but how will you extend your range if CO fold a lot to 3 bet like 70% or if he fold a lot to conti bet in 3 bet pot like 65%?.


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IronPumper
Joined: 03.01.2008

Originally posted by LgWz
Agree with IronPumper and IFS, which is why I 3b/5b small pairs (I prefer flatting the initial raise instead of 3b/5b with Axs).

I'd be happy to run some filters and check what a CO vs BB stack off range looks like on average but I'm not sure how to do it. From experience at my games I expect regs to 4b/c JJ+, AK. Of course I see the occasional AQ, AJ, 88 but it's rare.

Also not sure how often people slowplay premiums on average (should also matter imo, if people sometimes call KK+ but always 4b AK then 5b jamming small pais is even better).

I did not make a db-check on this, butwhen I try to remind here the situations,
I also have the feel that vs. me most ppl 4b/C JJ+, AK in CovsBB (I 3b in blindsvsCo 9%) and pretty rarely 88-TT and AQ.

Also I think thatmore trapping happens in BTNvsblinds cause ppl know you 3b vs Co lessand hence the coolervalue w KK+ will increase....


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