Coaching: No-Limit [Beginner] with Bierbaer

Hey guys,

thanks for the feedback!
I will take your ideas into consideration when planning the next coachings

Phil

edit: Esp free beer sounds good ♦

I enjoyed very much your coaching today and I am looking forward to learn as much as I can from the future ones. I would like to see more videos with your playing style, because I still can't figure out how to crush microstakes. I heard that I have to have at least 5 if not even 10 BB/100 at this level. Even if I have a lot of good days with 5 up to 10 buy-ins won, variation or tilt goes me badly behind, so my BB/100 is just around 1 and most of my money are made from rakeback which is actually the reason I still play, because my playing style is not profitable. I read the beginner's and bronze articles but they don't fit too much in the NL4's shorthanded game philosophy. I even watched some videos but it is still not enough. I don't figure out how can I become better at this level, without just being on breakeven and earning money from rakeback. Some videos are useful, but they can't simulate all the situations and it's hard for me to understand which are the +EV moves at one time or another. I still hope to get some help in order to learn and evolve so that to improve my playing style, my BB/100, my winrates and to crush microstakes. I am very interested in any advice or strategy that may help me improve my game. Last but not least, I would like to wish you a happy new year and all the best, coach!

ok, I have not much ideas, but one really is - fix the sound quality ( I posted in another general feedback thread this)

Topic for today's coaching?

Hm i cant connect to coaching says their is an error??

@mute
Just saw your post
Sorry, I don't know what the problem could be. Maybe you could try to update flash? Try another browser?

Here's the hand from today's coaching:

PokerStars - Hold'em Cash Games - $0.05/0.10 Blinds - 6 Players

gezabo (UTG): $17.81
Podar_George (UTG+1): $10
Bierbaer (CO): $11.33
JohnnyW8 (BTN): $9.83
rhythmstarz (SB): $11.27
Pruzany (BB): $15.17

Pre-flop: Dealt to Bierbaer T♠ K♦
(2 folds), Bierbaer raises to $.30, (2 folds), Pruzany calls $.20

Flop: ($.65) 3♥ J♠ A♣ (2 Players)
Pruzany checks, Bierbaer bets $.45, Pruzany raises to $.90, Bierbaer calls $.45

Turn: ($2.45) Q♣ (2 Players)
Pruzany checks, Bierbaer bets $1.25, Pruzany calls $1.25

River: ($4.95) 4♣ (2 Players)
Pruzany bets $5.60, Hero?

Stats: 60/29, WWSF: 57

I call the flop due to implied odds which I probably have given he's a maniac.
On the turn I bet for value. The bet is small to either induce something or get a thin call from some Qx etc.
On the river given he overbets imo most of his range is flushes -> easy fold.

Best regards,
Phil

I think betting the turn halfpot is not to good against this type of player.
I should bet 20% to induce a raise and get it in. Or just bet over potsize to get max vallue from his flop raise valluerange.

If you bet small like this against maniacs they bet over pot on the river Isildur1 style. (they see on TV with 27o)

I think you have a call especially with his stats and given that he might be a maniac. He does not know that he turns 2pair in a bluff at the river and would still think he hast almost always the best hand.
AQs-AJs,A4s,KTs,QJs,Q4s,Tc9c,8c7c,6c5c,Jc3c,Kc9c,AQo-AJo,A4o,KTo,QJo,Q4o is a range he might have played like that (pls correct me if i'm wrong). The Hands he raises the flop with, which form a flush at the river are just a small part of is range. I put in some hands with no connection to the board on the flop in his range and we are still at 83.05%.

Fix HM so U can use HUD plz.

Thx

Hey Bierbaer

What are your thoughts on fast fold poker? Sometimes when you're playing, a viewer will ask a question and you try to go into detail about a certain spot or about hand ranges or something like this. But with 4/5 tables open it is not very feasible to have these discussions effectively.

Pleno get's around this problem by playing 2/3 tables on fast fold poker that way he can easily "sit out next hand" with no trouble and discuss a hand or a question asked by a viewer. Just a suggestion.

Really enjoy the coachings by the way.

Regards,
Luke

Hey Luke,

thanks for the feedback!
I'm personally not a big fan of the fast tables. Also I think as a beginner it's better to play normal tables to develop hand reading skills and the ability to generate reads on opponents.
Nevertheless I see your point, I'll try something like 2 normal tables and a fast table and see how it goes.

Thanks again for the feedback, I appreciate it :).

Best regards,
Phil

Really nice coaching Bierbaer! This was my first time I attended your coaching and I have to say that I'm really impressed! I will definitely try to attend more of your coachings from now on!

Hi Bierbaer. I enjoy your coachings, I think you are a bit nitty with folds, but I understand for beginners.

I had a question about microstakes players.

In the latest coaching you mentioned that a decent NL10 player must be doing something wrong if they are still at microstakes, and the same for all microstakes limits, and that if they were cashing out and staying at NL10 it was a bad strategy.

If we can dominate NL10, making 25bb/100, even with the higher rake, isn't it a better proposition than playing NL100 and making 2.5bb/100? I've read that a lower winrate has higher chance of downswings.

Just wondering, I mean, if the hourly is almost the same, and you get more satisfaction from dominating a limit, why do you think it's a bad strategy to stay there and cash out a modest amount each week?

I'd love to move up limits, but I can't afford to go without cashouts, and I don't want a lower winrate at higher limits, with tougher competition, more chance of downswing, and less satisfaction/more frustration. I think for long term, dominating a limit for a while and working on leaks is a decent strategy before moving up. Do you think it's worth the higher rakeback to shoot for NL100 with the greater risk of downswing?

Hey acetbfish, thanks for the feedback.

@gavin
Firstly I think it's extremely hard to beat nl10 for 25bb/100, if that is even possible. And further, if you're actually that good then yes, if you can in any way manage to move up - do it. What you're approaching the wrong way here is, that you're not jumping straight from NL10 to NL100. If you were given a choice like that and you're dependant on the money I'd advise you to stay on NL10. However, you can in fact play NL25. And furthermore, "moving up" is not a final step - you can easily mix NL10 and NL25. F.e. if you're 4 tabling make it 3 tables of NL10 and 1 of NL25, or, if that's confusing with different bet sizes etc you can play the occasional session of nl25 (presuming you have the bankroll of course).

To get back to the win rate: If you have f.e. 10bb/100 on NL10, which is a really good winrate - on NL 25 you only need 4bb/100 to have show the same profits. And that is not even considering rakeback, bonuses etc which actually accumulate to a lot when you compare NL10 to NL25.

The satisfaction is a personal preference, but if you're playing poker semi-professional you should consider for yourself your goal is to show maximum profits or to be happier while playing.

After all, if I'd make f.e. 10$/h on NL25 compared to (f.e.) 5$/h on NL10 it would be more pleasant for me to make 10 ;).

Hope this helps

Best regards,
Phil

Thanks Phil, it's a very helpful answer.

** Hand # 4895586885 starting - 2013-05-17 21:27:39
** Anonymous - €10 Max [Hold'em] (0.05|0.10 NL - Cash Game) Real Money

Player 1 sitting in seat 1 with €11.56
Player 2 sitting in seat 2 with €10.66
Player 3 sitting in seat 3 with €12.22[Dealer]
Hero sitting in seat 4 with €17.88
Player 5 sitting in seat 5 with €10.00
Player 6 sitting in seat 6 with €14.55
Spazz0r posted the small blind - €0.05
Player 5 posted the big blind - €0.10

** Dealing cards to Spazz0r: Jd, Jh
Player 6 folded
Player 1 raised to €0.30
Player 2 folded
Player 3 called - €0.30
Hero raised to €1.20
Player 5 folded
Player 1 called - €0.95
Player 3 called - €0.95

** Dealing the flop: 5s, 7s, 9d

Hero?

-> Discuss

Hi,

here are the notes from today's coaching:

Opponent raises on BU, he raises 35% OTB.
Hero is BB

He raises to 3bb, you call.

-> 6.5bb in the pot on the flop

Let's assume we lead 4bb:

=> we need 4/(4+6.5) = 4/10.5= 38% fold equity

Using the pie feature we found out he misses the board 65% of the time so we most likely have a lot more than 38% fold equity!

Best regards,
Phil

Why have beginner coachings with live play been canceled?