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QQ vs. turn raise

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Hello.

Villain is 21/14/4.2 and reg-looking (59). No sample really so no reliable stats about raising tendencies. When he raises the turn here, and for this size, do you ever put anything other than flushes in his range when we are unknown to each other? Sets just call, AK just calls (if he doesn't 3b pre). I doubt he ever bluffs this size since he'd be betting so small on river if he got called. If only flushes, we fold right?

Need 26% to call for FH outs, but we have some implied odds since I doubt he folds $40 when pot is $170 at river. How do we take this into account? Just add the $40 so that we need 20.5% equity to call? If so, then calling w implied odds still seems -EV because of rake. Clear fold?


Board: T♥Q♣3♥ J♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    20.91%  20.91%   0.00% { QdQs }
MP3    79.09%  79.09%   0.00% { AhQh, KhQh, Kh9h, 9h8h, 8h7h }

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Party, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $87 (87 bb)
BB: $119.08 (119.1 bb)
MP: $103.41 (103.4 bb)
BTN: $60.88 (60.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $102 (102 bb)
CO: $101.08 (101.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
3 folds, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3, BTN calls $3

Flop: ($12) T Q 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $9, BB calls $9, BTN folds

Turn: ($30) J (2 players)
Hero bets $21, BB raises to $60, Hero ???


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Scoob101
Joined: 11.10.2006

I made the same calculation like you with implieds against his rest stack.

I also came up with the result that call even with implieds is slightly -EV.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi.

This is a pretty ugly spot. I would definitely fold 33 here. With QQ we sometimes have the best hand but not too often.

10% of the time, we call 39$ more, we win 150$ when it gets checked down

90% of the time, we call 39$ more.
0.2 of the time, we hit our boat and win 27$ more
0.8 of the time, we miss and fold river

EV = 0.1 (150-39=111) + 0.72 (-39) + 0.18 (150+27-39=138)
= 11.1 - 28.08 + 24.84 = 7.86$

Hope my calculations are right, and I made the assumption that we have the best hand 10% of the time which is crucial for this play to be +EV. If it isn't, this play is -EV.


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