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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

IPoker, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BB): $209.25 (104.6 bb)
MP: $39.15 (19.6 bb)
CO: $249.50 (124.8 bb)
BTN: $95.30 (47.7 bb)
SB: $451.14 (225.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 J
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) J 7 T (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($28) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $19.60, Hero calls $19.60

River: ($67.20) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $40, SB raises to $110, Hero calls $70

Villain: 21/17 (same as in the A3s hand)
23 open SB (31)
78/61/no sample) cbet
21 WTS
(1.1k hands)

Reads:
Bluff c/raise 2nd pair vs PFA bet bet when FD hit OTT
Valuebets thinly

No point in raising at any point before the river right?

Sizing OTR? Mainly targeting 2pairs/sets and given I had seen this guy turn a hand into a bluff before in pot OTT we have to snap this off and do so against close to all opponents (close to top of our range)?


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

yeah, I think the hand was well played. River we have to snap it.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi

Flop and Turn are fine. I don't like raising when you have a combo draw. River looks a lot like KQ.

What's your betting range on the River? For made hands, only 8X and KQ?


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Pretty much yeah. Probably never end up with a set in this spot given how the hand is played. So for that reason can we just fold given it is at the bottom of our very narrow valuerange?

Do you btw like a c/raise with KQ in this spot from villains point of view?


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

My betting frequency will be quite high thoigh OTR since I will be turning a bunch of hands into bluffs.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

i think it's a decent play with KQ, you are going to have so many busted draws (JTX boards contains so many busted draws), 8X which you are always going to bet, and you will often fold JX vs a river bet. Sets probably raise F or T so those are irrelevant.

River is probably a bet/fold unless you think villain is turning many hands into bluffs. it sucks that you block clubs, i would much prefer calling the raise with 8X with no as he could sometimes take this line with busted clubs


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serverm07
Joined: 08.08.2012

Hi,

I think river is a good spot for him to have a checking range. What's more interesting is if he should split his range or check it all. I think you played it well, we can prob fold vs raise since most people are going to be unbalanced towards value.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

I actually like the idea of checking our entire range OTR a lot. This is just a card that will result in so many herofolds by the most of the hands we are targeting if we valuebet. Might lose a bit of value from 2pairs though, although there are probably not that many (assuming villain would raise most of them OTF or OTT) so yeah def a cool idea


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