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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

So, the first days of 15s are going just fine. Had a rough start, ran really bad but today turned for the better. Still a lot of setups/coolers w/e but nothing awful like it was the days before today.

Stuff I noticed at 15s is that there's more regs(obv) and most regs are very aggressive. There are some brutally aggressive guys that are just funny. :) Needed some time to adjust to the aggression in general and think I'm improving in that department. Was being overly aggressive myself in some spots(mainly bubble play) and just spewed money. Have to control that especially cause I don't play that way usually and still don't know the regs that well. Saw some awful calls on the bubble. Just when I start thinking some guy is decent he goes on and makes some godawful call on the bubble and hurts me big time.

Overall, I'm enjoying the game more then ever and looking forward to every session. :f_love:


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

Yesterday was just a tease I guess. :)
Running pretty bad, just keep shoving into the nuts all the time,bubble after bubble. Bubbled 26 times today out of 90 games, really annoying. Keep shoving into premiums in ATC spots. But it'll stop eventually and till then just have to play the same and make sure that it doesn't affect my shoves. Will check all the spots tomorrow just to make sure I wasn't making mistakes, being too loose or w/e.

Had a spot today that got me thinking. I read about it somewhere on the site before. It's nothing big, just found it interesting. So, a guy was folding on a bubble to a short that had like 2bbs. I was the middle stack with like 5bbs or something like that and had to eventually shove over the big stack to try to kick the short out. I know it's not "against the law" or anything like that, the end justifies the means and so on but I never do that stuff. It just doesn't feel right to me. Might be silly of me, don't know.


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dogma18
Joined: 09.12.2009

caught you at tables yesterday. keep it up!


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

Originally posted by dogma18
caught you at tables yesterday. keep it up!

Yeah, I noticed you too, no doubt there. :)

Had the best session of my life yesterday.

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15s have been very swingy so far and am about BE. Most of the time everyone is spiking every turn and river, every card that improves me gives villain the nuts, shoves not going through especially on the bubble where it comes down to me being card dead and as soon as I get something shoveable it runs into a stronger hand.
Main thing to focus on is understanding who is who at 15s. I know most of the best regs already and need to get a better feel for all the other regs to know what I can expect from them especially regarding the bubble play.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Ooh that was a nice graph. :heart: :heart: Shame they took such a big chunk back. That's the 15s teasing you for sure ;) Saying: "See - this is what you could have won if we'd been feeling generous..."

Keep it up, my friend.


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

The goal for last month was to play 150h. FAILED. It was mainly because I was sick and lost about a week of play so with that it would've been close to the wanted number.

September was huge for me because I finally started playing 15s. It's still a small sample so can't really draw any conclusions but I can say I'm confident I can beat it. With a lot of work, of course. :) Ran poorly on them most of the time, card distribution or w/e to call it was just disgusting.
Nice to see some "real" money turning on daily basis. Needed couple of days to get used to those numbers. To win or lose some of my peer's monthly pay in couple of hours felt strange at first. That's right, monthly pay playing 15s for couple of hours. Long live Croatia! :)

Was playing 7s for the most part of September. Ended them just the way I wanted. ROI was at 5.2% (EV at 8.4%).

Didn't really expect the difference between 7s and 15s to be that big but have to say it really is noticeable. As I said before, players are much more aggressive at 15s, there's not so many huge whales and there are some really good regs which is not that unusual because 15s are the first limit that can provide you a normal living in most countries I guess.
I think I'm adjusting just fine to the new limit but there's still a lot of work to be done and I'm ready for it. :)

So, 15s graph,7s graph,overall graph and the numbers:

15s - ROI -0.4% (EV 1.6%) but as I said, small sample.

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7s - ROI 5.2% (EV 8.4%)

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Overall

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Hours played: 105
Games played: 1708
ROI: 2.7% (EV 5.4%)
Profit (including RB): 677$
$/hr (including RB): 6.44$

Satisfied with September. In October - more playing, more learning, more moniez. :)
Gonna set the same goal as for last month:
*150h of playing time
and hope that nothing (like being sick) comes in the way.


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

Had to stop the first session today after just 15 games. Being dominated in every single spot, in spots where villain is shoving 50-60-70% I keep watching the very top of their range, guys that 3bet like mad show up with KK+, it seems I can not get anything better than a flip. Impossible to play. Got really angry, tilted and was just pissed that you can't just close the tables like when you play cash games. Haven't felt like that in months.
Now, after getting this out, gonna calm myself down and play a normal session later.


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Hey Klompa, saw you at the tables man. Welcome and enjoy your time at 15s. I think you will have positive ROI there without too much trouble, your game is solid in ranges but needs tweaking in some more advanced plays :) All the best


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
Hey Klompa, saw you at the tables man. Welcome and enjoy your time at 15s. I think you will have positive ROI there without too much trouble, your game is solid in ranges but needs tweaking in some more advanced plays :) All the best

Well, I guess I have to watch and learn. Thanks.


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IvicaIliev77
Joined: 31.05.2012

Originally posted by klompa

Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
Hey Klompa, saw you at the tables man. Welcome and enjoy your time at 15s. I think you will have positive ROI there without too much trouble, your game is solid in ranges but needs tweaking in some more advanced plays :) All the best

Well, I guess I have to watch and learn. Thanks.

Did not mean it as an ofence but rather honest observation. And dont watch me, I spew and tilt way too much :)


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010
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Stacks:
CO (2,343) 23bb
Hero (BTN) (1,612) 16bb
SB (2,092) 21bb
BB (2,953) 30bb

Blinds: 50/100

Pre-Flop: (150, 4 players) Hero is BTN K♦ K♥
CO raises to 300, Hero goes all-in 1,612, 2 folds, CO calls 1,312

Flop: 9♦ K♠ 8♠ (3,374, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: J♦ (3,374, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 10:spade: (3,374, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 3,374
CO shows a straight, Ten to Ace
A♣ Q♣
Hero shows three of a kind, Kings
K♦ K♥

CO wins 3,374 (net +1,762)

Hero lost 1,612

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Stacks:
CO (3,075) 21bb
BTN (1,765) 12bb
SB (1,810) 12bb
Hero (BB) (2,350) 16bb

Blinds: 75/150

Pre-Flop: (225, 4 players) Hero is BB A♥ A♦
CO calls 150, 2 folds, Hero raises to 375, CO calls 225

Flop: 5♦ 10:spade: 2♥ (825, 2 players)
Hero bets 375, CO calls 375

Turn: 5♠ (1,575, 2 players)
Hero bets 525, CO calls 525

River: 6♠ (2,625, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in 1,075, CO calls 1,075

Final Pot: 4,775
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Fives
A♥ A♦
CO shows a flush, Ace high
A♠ 2♠

CO wins 4,775 (net +2,425)

Hero lost 2,350

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Stacks:
UTG (1,500) 75bb
UTG+1 (1,490) 75bb
Hero (CO) (1,470) 74bb
BTN (1,260) 63bb
SB (1,780) 89bb
BB (1,500) 75bb

Blinds: 10/20

Pre-Flop: (30, 6 players) Hero is CO 5♣ 5♠
2 folds, Hero raises to 60, BTN calls 60, 2 folds

Flop: J♠ 5♦ K♥ (150, 2 players)
Hero bets 90, BTN calls 90

Turn: J♦ (330, 2 players)
Hero bets 230, BTN calls 230

River: 6♥ (790, 2 players)
Hero bets 480, BTN goes all-in 880, Hero calls 400

Final Pot: 2,550
Hero shows a full house, Fives full of Jacks
5♣ 5♠
BTN shows a full house, Jacks full of Sixes
6♣ J♥

BTN wins 2,550 (net +1,290)

Hero lost 1,260

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Stacks:
UTG (1,380) 46bb
UTG+1 (1,460) 49bb
CO (2,175) 73bb
BTN (1,300) 43bb
SB (1,650) 55bb
Hero (BB) (1,035) 35bb

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-Flop: (45, 6 players) Hero is BB A♠ K♠
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 90, 1 fold, BTN calls 90, 1 fold, Hero raises to 299, UTG+1 folds, BTN calls 209

Flop: 9♦ 7♥ 7♠ (703, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in 736, BTN calls 736

Turn: 6♦ (2,175, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: J♦ (2,175, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 2,175
BTN shows two pair, Nines and Sevens
9♥ A♦
Hero shows a pair of Sevens
A♠ K♠

BTN wins 2,175 (net +1,140)

UTG+1 lost 90
Hero lost 1,035

Just some hands from today's short session(16 games, wasn't capable of handling any more). Watching this kind of stuff every day, hand after hand. Whatever I shove or call is just not good, pairs running into bigger pairs, no matter what I have, villain is holding that with a better kicker, AK is always against a pair, losing flips like a boss, forced to fold just about everything postflop, ridiculous runouts one after another, in HU it feels like I'm only playing against 99+ AT+, had numerous spots where am as a chip leader on the bubble shoving into premiums ending either as a bubble boy or just barely making to HU...

Whine over. :)

Went over hundreds of hands in the last days and seeing standard shoves/calls getting owned most of the time is pretty demoralizing. I'm aware of some mistakes I was making and am trying to fix them but it's pretty hard for me to keep playing the best I can while running this way. I wish I could say it's not affecting my game but that would be a lie. Still, don't think I've been playing bad. Gonna buy HRC next week and am looking forward to that.

The biggest positive thing I see right now is that I don't tilt. Not getting angry, not smashing stuff around me is a big step forward. Sad, but true. :)
On the other hand, I can say that running bad is physically exhausting, for me at least. I mean, after a session I feel like someone beat me up with a bat.

I hope to find will for playing at least two more sessions today.
Gonna go to a friend's place tonight and get shitfaced/smashed/sloshed/trashed w/e. Haven't done that in a long long time.
Will take a day off tomorrow, not think about poker, bad beats, coolers and other fun stuff and then on Monday, fresh and invigorated, gonna start grinding my way back up. :f_love:

This popped into my head today, don't know why. Haven't listened to him in years probably. Great stuff.

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

The intro to the screamin Jay song is like how some ppl play poker. It's the musical equivalent of clickin' buttons :f_love:


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jimira
Joined: 12.08.2009

Oh man I feel with you. When jokerstars puts a doomswitzzz on one - just have to grind through it.

I play 9man hypers and know all about it. I stopped after 12 tables the other day also because I lost 4 (FOUR!) times with overpair vs underpair. The worst was 3-handed where my JJ lost vs 99 and T9. Board was XXXX and then river a one-outer 9 _evil:

But then, last 3 days +$266.93 and a smashing ROI of 81,4% _cool:

Gonna turn for U2


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

Originally posted by Tim64
The intro to the screamin Jay song is like how some ppl play poker. It's the musical equivalent of clickin' buttons :f_love:
lol
"don't have to but I better"
Can imagine guys sitting in front of PC and making that noise tho. _biggrin:


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010

Originally posted by jimira
Oh man I feel with you. When jokerstars puts a doomswitzzz on one - just have to grind through it.

I play 9man hypers and know all about it. I stopped after 12 tables the other day also because I lost 4 (FOUR!) times with overpair vs underpair. The worst was 3-handed where my JJ lost vs 99 and T9. Board was XXXX and then river a one-outer 9 _evil:

Hey, jimira. Yeah, we all know how it feels. Sucks but we all go through it every so often, some more often than others. :)

Originally posted by jimira
But then, last 3 days +$266.93 and a smashing ROI of 81,4% _cool:
Gonna turn for U2

And that's exactly what comes after, just have to still be there when it comes. :)


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010
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Played first thousand games on 15s. Running so poorly from the get go. It's pretty hard to play but just have to endure this. So many setups/coolers/stupid shit, hand after hand, day after day. It's gonna be better when villains start not having the easiest call in the world against me every single hand.

Bought HRC the other day and started working with it, really nice tool. :)


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RedStarUltras
Joined: 16.04.2011

be aware man i am coming at your level soon... :P


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Joined: 12.09.2011
klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010
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Didn't have the time of my life today.


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klompa
Joined: 09.09.2010
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15s have been an absolute nightmare so far. Feeling completely helpless all the time, like someone's taking the piss. :)
I'm really disappointed but still 100% confident I can beat this limit. It's not the first runbad but it still gets to me every time it happens. Handling it much better then before obviously but still...hurts big time.

Noticed that I have less patience for all the random usual shit happening every day. Yesterday I was in a line at a post office for about half an hour, wanted to smash everyone's faces. It's like old people skipped the class on "How a line works".
The other thing that just pissed me off was that I had to go to my ISP on three occasions to pick up a bill they forgot to send me. First two times, a girl that works there wrote the wrong account number which consists of about 10 digits. Two times? Well, I guess that would've pissed me off any day so... :)

Was planning to play a longer session now but every game has 4 regs so I guess I'll postpone it.


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