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marcepoker17
Joined: 21.06.2011

Poker Stars, $1.64 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP1: 3,825 (76.5 bb)
Hero (MP2): 5,626 (112.5 bb)
MP3: 9,238 (184.8 bb)
CO: 3,027 (60.5 bb)
BTN: 1,720 (34.4 bb)
SB: 2,248 (45 bb)
BB: 5,898 (118 bb)
UTG+1: 3,500 (70 bb)
UTG+2: 4,023 (80.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K K
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 50, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 150, MP3 raises to 575, 5 folds, Hero raises to 1,650, MP3 calls 1,075

Flop: (3,425) Q T 7 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,900, MP3 raises to 3,800, Hero raises to 3,976 and is all-in, MP3 calls 176

Turn: (11,377) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (11,377) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

11,377 pot
Final Board: Q T 7 4 3
Hero showed K K and lost (-5,626 net)
MP3 showed Q Q and won 11,377 (5,751 net)

I gave 2 different ranges here, one around 9,5%hands and one even tighter of 6,18% and agaist both I'm in a pretty good shape(63/66% equity).
I think it is wrong to get away in this spot in a micro mtt without a good reason, but it's pretty gross to have to push 118bb so early in a tourny where I think I have a big edge.


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Hey marcepoker!

nh imo! I don't fold kk neither pre nor on this board! You could 3bet a little bit smaller and also cbet smaller to give villain some fe for moves!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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marcepoker17
Joined: 21.06.2011

The size pre it's a bit bigger because I'm oop, the cbet its big to make the draws pay and I still oop. You think it's wrong to take into account these factors when deciding a bet size?
thanks


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

On a 1$ tournament its probably good though :) Against better players its just always nuts!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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marcepoker17
Joined: 21.06.2011

Originally posted by Tiltberger
Against better players its just always nuts!

I don't really understand the answer.. ?(

you said you never fold kk on that flop.
if he's nuts, he's just going to win the chips, if anyway you never fold here, but if he's on a draw the bigger size could add value for you, no?!
:)


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

sry I meant… better players will u read ak+ qq+ with this sizing!

Greets,
Tiltberger


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marcepoker17
Joined: 21.06.2011

Originally posted by Tiltberger
sry I meant… better players will u read ak+ qq+ with this sizing!

Greets,
Tiltberger

Not necessary a bad thing if you dont have ak/qq+..
Ok, anyway I get what you mean.
Thanks again!


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