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jmackenzie
Joined: 04.06.2008

Just started using sklanskys push ranges and it recommends hard to play postflop hands like ace rag to be pushed at the moment im using the more conservative push chart but posting some hands here to make sure im playing them right. Also just started nl 50 so not taking notice to stats just yet not enough hands.

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$55.10:79/22 /8 /1.7/53 /20 /0 /50 ;BB$28.26:59/43 /9 /3.8/50 /0 /0 /70 ;UTG+1$8.50:100/3 /2 /-/22 /0 /100 /0 ;UTG+2$9.65:155/9 /3 /2.7/8 /6 /100 /0 ;MP1$10.75:194/7 /7 /3.5/44 /23 /67 /25 ;MP2$49.75:100/13 /10 /-/40 /31 /67 /75 ;MP3$50.00:84/9 /4 /1.0/25 /0 /100 /0 ;CO$7.95:51/0 /0 /-/33 /0 /-/100 ;Hero$8.80:///////;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♦, 8♥
6 folds, Hero raises to $8.80 (All-In), SB folds, BB calls $8.30.

Flop: ($17.85) K♥, 5♣, 4♣
Turn: ($17.85) Q♠
River: ($17.85) 6♣

Final Pot: $17.85

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows high card ace with king kicker (Ad 8h)
BB shows a pair of tens (Tc Th)

BB wins with a pair of tens (Tc Th)

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$9.00:85/14 /14 /0.0/50 /64 /100 /0 ;BB$10.00:113/14 /7 /9.0/30 /7 /100 /67 ;UTG+1$32.55:70/21 /3 /6.5/33 /13 /100 /50 ;UTG+2$54.78:230/11 /5 /2.3/47 /20 /100 /38 ;MP1$9.50:108/8 /6 /-/50 /8 /100 /20 ;MP2$11.25:194/7 /7 /3.5/44 /23 /67 /25 ;MP3$46.70:98/7 /0 /-/33 /0 /100 /0 ;Hero$11.50:///////;BU$47.75:66/8 /6 /0.5/33 /13 /100 /0 ;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♥, T♥
5 folds, Hero raises to $11.50 (All-In), 3 folds.

Final Pot: $12.25

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows high card ace with ten kicker (Ah Th)

Hero wins with high card ace with ten kicker (Ah Th)

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$11.50:///////;BB$9.25:108/8 /6 /-/50 /8 /100 /20 ;UTG+1$23.99:55/27 /4 /-/18 /10 /-/50 ;UTG+2$10.50:65/8 /8 /1.3/60 /0 /100 /33 ;MP1$80.84:230/11 /5 /2.3/47 /20 /100 /38 ;MP2$9.50:19/16 /16 /-/0 /0 /100 /-;MP3$12.50:85/14 /14 /0.0/50 /64 /100 /0 ;CO$8.75:12/8 /0 /-/100 /0 /-/100 ;BU$18.05:23/22 /9 /-/33 /25 /100 /100 ;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♣, 6♦
7 folds, Hero raises to $11.50 (All-In), BB folds.

Final Pot: $12.00

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows high card ace with six kicker (Ac 6d)

Hero wins with high card ace with six kicker (Ac 6d)


5 replies
greyboy
Joined: 19.07.2006

Hand1:
17,6BB from BU
Your stacksize is between 15 and 20BB.
The Sklansky Push is close, I think it is still profitable.

Because you have position and A8o got a medium playability,
I suggest you a normal steal here.

Hand2:
Again close, again nice playability, again postion on 2 of 3 Players.
I commend you to steal normal ;)

Hand3:
Nice Hand. Nice Spot ;)


jmackenzie
Joined: 04.06.2008

thanks for the info.


Hi jmackenzie,

I think Sklansky pushes shut be your "last exit" when you already use stats. Normally its way more profitable to raise normal and fold according to the opponents stats against a reraise. However Hands like a5o, have a really bad playability so its possible to push them directly against loose opponents.

But I would not push Hands like ATs they have a nice playability and you can easily go broke with TPGK.

I also don't like Hand3: The opponent will fold 95% of his blinds so just raise normal to 3bb and fold to a push it has an higher ev.


jmackenzie
Joined: 04.06.2008

ok i think i get the use of them now heres a few examples of using them against looser oppenents.

Known players:
[tg]Hero$7.50:///////;BB$59.15:///////;UTG+1$23.20:///////;UTG+2$9.25:///////;MP1$26.92:///////;MP2$45.70:///////;MP3$9.25:///////;CO$58.55:///////;BU$50.05:///////;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♠, 7♥
7 folds, Hero raises to $7.50 (All-In), BB calls $7.00.

Flop: ($15.00) 8♥, 8♦, 9♠
Turn: ($15.00) 7♦
River: ($15.00) 6♥

Final Pot: $15.00

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows two pairs, eights and sevens (As 7h)
BB shows a pair of eights (Kh Jh)

Hero wins with two pairs, eights and sevens (As 7h)

Known players:
[tg]SB$36.87:///////;BB$10.50:///////;UTG$9.45:///////;UTG+1$52.85:///////;UTG+2$9.25:///////;MP1$58.35:///////;MP2$55.40:///////;MP3$12.70:///////;CO$22.70:///////;Hero$9.70:///////;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♠, 7♣
7 folds, Hero raises to $9.70 (All-In), SB calls $9.45, BB folds.

Flop: ($19.90) T♣, 7♠, 8♠
Turn: ($19.90) 4♠
River: ($19.90) 3♦

Final Pot: $19.90

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows a pair of sevens (As 7c)
SB shows high card queen with jack kicker (Qc Jh)

Hero wins with a pair of sevens (As 7c)

Known players:
[tg]Hero$8.00:///////;BB$66.65:///////;UTG+2$60.50:///////;MP1$12.35:///////;MP2$47.15:///////;MP3$8.75:///////;CO$10.00:///////;BU$8.50:///////;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A♦, 8♦
6 folds, Hero raises to $8.00 (All-In), BB calls $7.50.

Flop: ($16.00) 8♥, K♠, 5♣
Turn: ($16.00) 6♥
River: ($16.00) 4♦

Final Pot: $16.00

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows a pair of eights (Ad 8d)
BB shows high card king with nine kicker (9s 2c)

Hero wins with a pair of eights (Ad 8d)

I also like to push with hands very close to calling a re-raise of an oppenent such is this is this the better line to take?

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$61.73:485/17 /12 /3.9/32 /40 /75 /40 ;UTG+1$10.00:130/13 /13 /0.5/40 /59 /100 /50 ;UTG+2$50.45:105/10 /3 /6.0/30 /0 /100 /67 ;MP1$10.00:84/7 /6 /-/40 /8 /100 /100 ;MP2$10.00:396/6 /6 /7.0/30 /15 /86 /25 ;MP3$50.00:87/15 /15 /-/14 /67 /67 /100 ;Hero$11.75:///////;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♥, J♠
4 folds, Hero raises to $11.75 (All-In), 2 folds.

Final Pot: $12.00

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows high card ace with jack kicker (Ah Js)

Hero wins with high card ace with jack kicker (Ah Js)


I used Sklansky-pushes for a while but decided to change back into normal raises. The +ev is pretty marginal and results in A LOT of variance. I think that normal raises are more profitable and if someone re-steals you can still push hands like 55+, given that you raise from SB or BU, also depending on how loose you think your opp resteals from an "obvious" steal. Otherwise fold and you get away cheaply. My two cents.