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JJ utg+1 vs utg raise

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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

No specific reads on villain. Bet flop? Fold river?

PokerStars - $100+$9|100/200 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 4,817 (VPIP: 13.75, PFR: 12.66, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 80)
BTN: 18,763 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 4,201 (VPIP: 8.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 25)
BB: 4,971 (VPIP: 8.64, PFR: 7.59, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 81)
UTG: 7,570 (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 46)
Hero (UTG+1): 13,420
UTG+2: 10,112 (VPIP: 15.89, PFR: 14.42, 3Bet Preflop: 14.00, Hands: 108)
MP: 12,370 (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 75)
MP+1: 11,410 (VPIP: 24.53, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 53)

9 players post ante of 20, SB posts SB 100, BB posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 480) Hero has J♦ J♥

UTG raises to 400, Hero calls 400, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (1,280, 2 players) 7♥ 3♠ A♥
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (1,280, 2 players) 4♣
UTG checks, Hero bets 412, UTG calls 412

River: (2,104, 2 players) 6♥
UTG bets 1,404, fold


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Bet more on the turn and folding the river is reasonable. I don't really see too many bluffs here (what can he bluff with?)


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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

Yep, on river i think he has mostly value hands when he bets. Most likely 55. Maybe A5 that he decided to check flop with. Not sure why he would check flop with flushdraw but its ofcourse possible. Or some other sets.

Bet should i bet flop when he checks?


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Hi,

Would prefer 3-betting pre-flop and playing for stacks.
You´re likely not ahead on the river, so folding there is fine

best regards,


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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

I dont like playing JJ for stacks here with 40bb eff.stacks vs utg raise. Feels like with a 3bet we are isolating our hand vs AK, TT+. I would 3bet AK, QQ+ in this spot vs a villain like that. If he was looser we can widen our range.. Imo..


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

46 hands r nothing for stats
Check his open first in EP stats(u have only 46 hands on him so it might be his first open utg, if this 46 hands r from this table and his ep open is < 10% I flat and ch down for free showdown on that runout) and if they r more then 10% 3 bet call off o ftw


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Seems too wide for value when our opponent is likely 4betting against us rather than 4betshoving. As a result when we 3bet/5bet JJ, he needs to 4bet/call quite wide for this to be a good hand with which to 3/5 with.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Seems too wide for value when our opponent is likely 4betting against us rather than 4betshoving. As a result when we 3bet/5bet JJ, he needs to 4bet/call quite wide for this to be a good hand with which to 3/5 with.

i think is reasonable to expect that in higher bi MTTS most solid villains steal a lot from EP (which means they open a wide range EP -> KQ,KJ,QJ,AX,K9s,SC etc) and most od those villains know/expect if they see u as solid that u gona 3bet light vs them so they click it back wide enough to 5bet AI JJ that

when all that said i do not agree that with that stack solid player would 4bet (like what he's gona do we 3bet ->1k he 4bet 2,2-2,5 and fold if we shove getting ~2:1 pot odds for a call?)i best play in his shoes if he got 3bet is to shove or fold (and i think is more likely that he will be shoving TT folding AQ which is great for us)

btw i agree that less variance etc play should be flatting and play pot inp


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Once we make it 950 with our range, our opponent can still 4bet/fold for 1900 or so of his 7570.


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