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Havlisak
Joined: 18.05.2009

Final table of 80WU on Ipoker. Villain 14/11 ft3b 70, no further reads.
I think I missed a turn bet, so I will not be able to shove rvr improved and get max value from hands like AK. And he might also fold some hands like JJ AT. I just feel I played the hand way too passive given how much equity we have ott

Sorry I just wasnt able to find an ipoker convertor.

iPoker - $80.00+$8.00|<> NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 48.59 BB (VPIP: 14.41, PFR: 11.16, 3Bet Preflop: 3.96, Hands: 240)
Hero (UTG+1): 54.74 BB
MP: 18.02 BB (VPIP: 25.38, PFR: 21.54, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 131)
CO: 32.72 BB (VPIP: 16.13, PFR: 11.48, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 62)
BTN: 5.8 BB (VPIP: 16.88, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 77)
SB: 43.54 BB (VPIP: 28.24, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.28, Hands: 133)
BB: 17.84 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has 8♦ 7♦

UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 4.87 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 2.87 BB

Flop: (11.95 BB, 2 players) T♥ K♦ 9♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 4.54 BB, UTG calls 4.54 BB

Turn: (21.04 BB, 2 players) 4♣
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (21.04 BB, 2 players) 8♣
UTG checks, Hero checks

Spoiler

UTG shows J♠ J♣ (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 78%, Flop 53%, Turn 70%)Hero mucks 8♦ 7♦ (One Pair, Eights) (Pre 22%, Flop 47%, Turn 30%)UTG wins 21.04 BB


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I think you played the turn/river fine given the ICM implications of being on the final table. If you bet turn, you MUST bet river on this runout, and it's just such an unnecessarily high variance line as the chipleader of a tournament, with decent seating position relative to the stacksizes.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Tbh I dont like 3 bet pre to start with

I prefer to just call or fold pre


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I think fold > call

I think this is a really good hand to have in your range when you 3bet these positions, same as 22-66. It's very very disguised and plays horribly vs a squeeze.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

I think you played the turn/river fine given the ICM implications of being on the final table. If you bet turn, you MUST bet river on this runout, and it's just such an unnecessarily high variance line as the chipleader of a tournament, with decent seating position relative to the stacksizes.

i agree on everything but i dont like 3beting in this spot(utg+1vsUTG) vs tight villain with those ef.stack sizes and stack sizes behind yet to act


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

HI all,

Folding's perfectly fine but I like 3betting more than a call (except against very good opponents, then a call is pretty awesome). It's definitely something you can do occasionally.


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pLAYERsjsk
Joined: 20.04.2009

hello. can i ask quick question?

i was thinking about this hand for about 17 hours and i didnt find any reason why betting the flop is better than checking.

edit: is it because checking > betting or am i missing something?

thank you for your help.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by pLAYERsjsk
hello. can i ask quick question?

i was thinking about this hand for about 17 hours and i didnt find any reason why betting the flop is better than checking.

edit: is it because checking > betting or am i missing something?

thank you for your help.

what?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Yeah it's somewhat interesting, but with 2 cards to come our equity is too amazing IMO. Sometimes villain decides to fold AQ or AJs (+ no flushdraw/no backdoors) or 88 to our bet as well.

I'm fine checking back worse draws, especially on this board.


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