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nghks1
Joined: 18.01.2011

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 92.5 BB
SB: 142.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 18)
BB: 32.2 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 216 BB (VPIP: 15.24, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.78, Hands: 324)
CO: 167.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ J♦

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 4 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 3 players) 8♣ 3♣ 2♣
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets 11 BB, fold, CO calls 11 BB

Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) A♥
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (44.5 BB, 2 players) T♠
CO bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

CO shows 7♣ A♣ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 32%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks J♣ J♦ (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 68%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
CO wins 69.2 BB

Can I call the river?


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Hi nghks1

Preflop: I think that without info this should be a fold preflop

Postflop: As played I would not call the river. Ax is part of his range, especially AcX and nothing bets that small there that you b eat.


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Nejc351
Joined: 30.11.2008

If we fold JJ preflop without info, with which range of cards do we continue? AA/KK only? How about qq? Some people 3-bet all sort of hands on NL10. I think they could 3-bet with axs like he did, KQs-JTs, even TT-99 maybe if they are loose enough. How about 4-bet/fold with JJ? And he 3-bet small 7bb only, not even 8bb.


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What was your plan if the PFR comes over the top?

In the end you are still calling 7 BB vs someone that 3-bet MP. You won't make a ton of money from pots like this and you stand to lose quite a bit.

How would you play if the board was low and he barreled 3 streets?


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Nejc351
Joined: 30.11.2008

Good point! Its not the best spot, we're flipping at best or hoping that he bluff with AK, which don't happens very often at nl10. And i dont see much 3-bets vs UTG on nl10.

If i got 3-bet preflop and i would call, and if he best 3 streets, i would call down x-c, 2 streets and then x-f the river.

Is it ok sometimes to 3-bet UTG range, if you can see from hud that he is not very nitty, from UTG and 3-bet him whith something like 66-99 with the intention to bluff him of AQ and take the pot down, or something similar? If he calls were done with the hand if we dont hit our set?

So if people fold a lot vs 3-bet UTG then maybe this would be that bad?


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Definitely don't bluff 3-bet hands like 66-99 that have no blockers and play poorly postflop.

You can 3-bet bluff hands like KQ or AJ or even AQ.


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Jehryn
Joined: 15.04.2008

As a general question, at what point can you call for setmining in a 3bet multi way pot?

In this hand the position is terrible so I would fold myself, but if i'm on the BTN and this action happens between UTG/MP for example I'll often call with TT-JJ and go broke if I hit a set on the flop.

I understand that you only hit a set 1/8 times and 7BB is a lot, but its also much more likely they'll have a strong hand which will make it easier to get it all in the middle and you can potientially win 300bb.


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How we use betsizing tell in future if such spot occur with our opponent?


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I think it's really unrealistic to think that we will get to win 300bb very often. A lot of things would need to happen for that to work.

It's more realistic to win 50-100BB at best.

As far as bet sizing goes we definitely want to make a note and compare it to when he does it for value. If he does value bigger we can cold 4-bet or call more IP and play with him.


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