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Havlisak
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14.02.2014, 10:37

Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 2430740
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UTG: t3170 105.67 BBs
UTG+1: t3000 100 BBs
MP1: t2804 93.47 BBs
MP2: t2865 95.50 BBs
CO: t2970 99 BBs
BTN: t2970 99 BBs
SB: t4579 152.63 BBs
Hero (BB): t2678 89.27 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with K :spade: K :diamond:
4 folds, CO raises to t60, BTN raises to t150, 1 fold, Hero raises to t380, 1 fold, BTN calls t230

Flop: (t835) Q :spade: 7 :spade: 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets t400, BTN raises to t930, Hero calls t530

Turn: (t2695) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (t2695) A :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets t288, BTN raises to t1660 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: t3271
BTN wins t3271

VIllain random 1tabler. Probably just c/f river, right? He should check back QQ777 every time after he checked turn


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TheRebuz
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14.02.2014, 15:01

b/c T


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Havlisak
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14.02.2014, 15:39

No reason, u just make him fold his bluffs. I expect him to shove Qx pretty much always after he raised flop, and we can still donkshove river (other that Q, A)


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TheRebuz
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14.02.2014, 16:05
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random 1 tablers dont shove bluffs often enough when u ch/ there but they will probably call PP maybe shove sometimes when u lead smalish on turn like 475 or smth, and btw i bet flop smaller like ~375and i do not agree that he will bet Qx when u check to him

UPPPPSSS this is were i realized that he raise flop

now WHEN I READ RIGHT HH i click back on flop/maybe shove with cos he has less then potsized bet left and its not like we r folding if he shove turn so... although just calling and donking smalish turns(cos randow villains read that as weaknes and go crazy) to induce is decent line too imo ....if he has QQ/AA nh w/e


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chenny8888
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15.02.2014, 14:15

Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
No reason, u just make him fold his bluffs. I expect him to shove Qx pretty much always after he raised flop, and we can still donkshove river (other that Q, A)

This. I c/eval river, possibly c/c though.


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16.02.2014, 02:24

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
No reason, u just make him fold his bluffs. I expect him to shove Qx pretty much always after he raised flop, and we can still donkshove river (other that Q, A)

This. I c/eval river, possibly c/c though.

why u c/c river A?


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_Anonymous_
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16.02.2014, 18:54

pretty easy shove otf with that spr imo....


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17.02.2014, 13:26

Hi,

If he has there air, he would most likely fold, but sometimes it is better just end hand and take 2165.
So likely I would shove flop 50% and call other 50%
m fine c/rai most turn cards but I would prefer shoving on 7, since I don´t think he would shove his air any more and at the same time he should not fold Qx (if he raised his hand for value)
Also your line seems a littlebit bluffy, so he may look you up quite light.
River is check. Your bet only sometimes induces light shoves, so if you bet 1/10th pot then I would rather call his shove

best regards,


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chenny8888
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18.02.2014, 17:46

Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Originally posted by Havlisak
No reason, u just make him fold his bluffs. I expect him to shove Qx pretty much always after he raised flop, and we can still donkshove river (other that Q, A)

This. I c/eval river, possibly c/c though.

why u c/c river A?

He can turn hands into bluffs once we check, if he expects us to valuebet the ace.


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