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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

Why does this always seem to happen to me???

I play good solid poker but always seem to be on the bad side of variance!!!

iPoker - €0.86+€0.14|<> NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 930
CO: 4,985 (VPIP: 36.73, PFR: 2.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
BTN: 1,620 (VPIP: 18.57, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 71)
SB: 1,465 (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 6.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 53)

SB posts SB 75, Hero posts BB 150

Pre Flop: (pot: 225) Hero has J♣ J♦

CO calls 150, fold, fold, Hero raises to 930 and is all-in, CO calls 780

Flop: (1,935, 2 players) 4♥ T♣ 9♠

Turn: (1,935, 2 players) 8♣

River: (1,935, 2 players) A♥

Spoiler

Hero mucks J♣ J♦ (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 57%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
CO shows K♥ A♦ (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 43%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
CO wins 1,935

Played that hand perfectly didn't I?

This is just one of the many bad beats that seem to always happen to me.

When roles are reversed I don't win the flip when I'm stronger.

Examples from tonight:

AK v 47o - Raised pre flop 3 x BB (300), get called by the 47o & flop is 4A7 - you can guess what happened next :rolleyes:

Short stack goes all in for 300, I call with 33 & go for a flip against J10s. J on the flop! - Nothing wrong with his play or mine - just unlucky again.

Sorry I just needed to vent my anger somewhere.

I seriously wonder whether poker is for me!


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

And another one just this second:

iPoker - €0.86+€0.14|<> NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 3,345 (VPIP: 19.90, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 196)
BTN: 2,330 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 144)
Hero (SB): 1,485
BB: 1,840 (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 14.80, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 210)

Hero posts SB 75, BB posts BB 150

Pre Flop: (pot: 225) Hero has K♣ K♦

fold, BTN raises to 2,330 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,410, fold

Flop: (3,120, 2 players) 5♥ K♥ J♥

Turn: (3,120, 2 players) 7♠

River: (3,120, 2 players) A♥

Spoiler

BTN shows 3♥ 3♣ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 19%, Flop 26%, Turn 18%)
Hero mucks K♣ K♦ (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 81%, Flop 74%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins 3,965

Can you believe it?

I'm not on tilt, playing good poker again & boom, river kills me once again.

It's almost got to the stage where instead of punching the dartboard surround I'm just going to sit there & laugh because it's too funny now.


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mylove190207
Joined: 10.04.2011

Hi andiofwbafc!

Don`t worry about that. It happens to all of us. I have exactly those kind of days too. You can`t do anything about that. It is just variance. It must be like that, otherwise loosing players won`t be playing poker. You say that you are not on tilt, but belive me you are. I was in the same mood as you are. And I knew, that if I let tilt to came over me, my game will hurt too much. So I look for Schnitzelfisch videos and they are awesom.

So watch that one: Mindset Seminar with Schnitzelfisch and Erik Stenqvist

It helps me and I knew it will help you. :f_wink:

And good calls :f_cool:

GL at tables


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

Hi Mylove,

Thanks for the reply.

I will be sure to check out that video you linked to. However it's not working at the moment.

When it works I will watch it.

Thanks.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

Hi andiofwbafc,

Can you try the link again please, it should be working, at least it did for me.

Post the problem and the link to it in here if it still fails ok?

Regards,

Mal.


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by gadget51
Hi andiofwbafc,

Can you try the link again please, it should be working, at least it did for me.

Post the problem and the link to it in here if it still fails ok?

Regards,

Mal.

Hi Mal,

I think it was a problem my end, I got it working eventually.

I managed to watch a hour of it so far & will watch again when I have some more time.

They raise some very good points in it so far.

Thanks, Andio.


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

And more:

iPoker - €0.86+€0.14|<> NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 1,500
SB: 1,500 (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 11.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
BB: 1,500
UTG: 1,500 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 1,500 (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 1,500

SB posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has Q♠ J♦

fold, fold, CO calls 20, Hero raises to 80, fold, fold, CO calls 60

Flop: (190, 2 players) 8♣ Q♥ 6♦
CO bets 40, Hero raises to 100, CO raises to 160, Hero calls 60

Turn: (510, 2 players) 2♦
CO bets 100, Hero calls 100

River: (710, 2 players) 6♠
CO bets 100, Hero calls 100

Spoiler

Hero mucks Q♠ J♦ (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes) (Pre 41%, Flop 75%, Turn 89%)
CO shows 6♣ A♣ (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 59%, Flop 25%, Turn 11%)
CO wins 910

Yes I know I played that hand badly but still got a rubbish river as usual.

Can I have suggestions to how I should have played that hand please?


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

Seriously come on now ipoker, enough is enough:

iPoker - €0.86+€0.14|<> NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 1,265
BB: 2,840 (VPIP: 19.83, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 122)
UTG: 1,095 (VPIP: 61.70, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 50)
CO: 1,390 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 10.61, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
BTN: 2,410 (VPIP: 18.00, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 50)

5 players post ante of 25, Hero posts SB 100, BB posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 425) Hero has A♥ J♥

fold, CO raises to 1,365 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 1,140, fold

Flop: (2,805, 2 players) Q♦ 9♠ T♥

Turn: (2,805, 2 players) 7♦

River: (2,805, 2 players) 6♦

Spoiler

Hero mucks A♥ J♥ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 74%, Flop 39%, Turn 20%)
CO shows J♦ 9♥ (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 26%, Flop 61%, Turn 80%)
CO wins 2,930

I'm lost for words.


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mylove190207
Joined: 10.04.2011

Can I have suggestions to how I should have played that hand please?

I think you play it as you should I think. He bets very small so you can be way behind or way ahead. And I don`t wanna play here for hole stack, because you will have a planty oportunity later to take his cheaps. Nice hand and don`t worry about results, just find out if it was right play or not. You just can`t play 100 tourneys and say that you are winning player if you have profit or you are loosing player if you are loosing. Keep that in mind and work on your poker skills, because this is all what mather in the end. :f_wink:


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

I'm sorry to bump again but it's ridicoulous:

iPoker - €0.86+€0.14|<> NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 2,535 (VPIP: 78.26, PFR: 47.83, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 23)
BB: 1,740 (VPIP: 17.93, PFR: 11.97, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 146)
Hero (UTG): 1,355
MP: 1,090 (VPIP: 22.08, PFR: 6.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
CO: 1,060 (VPIP: 11.18, PFR: 6.03, 3Bet Preflop: 1.52, Hands: 835)
BTN: 1,220 (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 30.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

SB posts SB 30, BB posts BB 60

Pre Flop: (pot: 90) Hero has Q♦ Q♣

Hero raises to 180, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 300, fold, Hero raises to 1,355 and is all-in, SB calls 1,055

Flop: (2,770, 2 players) 2♣ A♦ 8♠

Turn: (2,770, 2 players) 4♠

River: (2,770, 2 players) 8♦

Spoiler

SB shows 7♠ A♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Eights) (Pre 32%, Flop 92%, Turn 98%)
Hero mucks Q♦ Q♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Eights) (Pre 68%, Flop 8%, Turn 2%)
SB wins 2,770

;( ;( ;( ;( ;(


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pauln
Joined: 15.03.2010

would you like them to stop calling your shoves with A7s?


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by pauln
would you like them to stop calling your shoves with A7s?

No that's not the issue here, he is right to call with that hand, as are most of the others in the other hands I've posted in this thread.

The issue is it's just how often the underdog wins a hand against me.

It happens more often than not, trust me.

When I'm the underdog, I never get the luck.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

If you want to post bad beats there is more appropriate places for that. Hand analysis area is to post hands you are unsure of.

Bad beats happens to all of us.

In QJo hand I would have played same way beside raising flop bit larger. No point to raise turn or river when villain 3bets flop.

In QQ hand I heavily doubt villain is going to show profit with his play in long run.

In future only one hand per thread, please.


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andiofwbafc
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by ghaleon
If you want to post bad beats there is more appropriate places for that. Hand analysis area is to post hands you are unsure of.

Bad beats happens to all of us.

In QJo hand I would have played same way beside raising flop bit larger. No point to raise turn or river when villain 3bets flop.

In QQ hand I heavily doubt villain is going to show profit with his play in long run.

In future only one hand per thread, please.

I apoligise for posting multiple hands in one thread.

I didn't want to start too many threads so placed them all in here.

Sorry, it won't happen again.

And thanks for taking a look at them & providing advice.

All the best, Andio.


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