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Botton set 3pot multiway

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david1345
Joined: 10.10.2011

Player who leads Turn is a fish im sure he has nothing, and the caller is a reg he calls in 3pots with draws, the problem i see here is the opejn shove of the 3er player he is a regular player 25 18, im not sure if is better to fold or call

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $30.74 (123 bb)
BB: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
UTG: $27.26 (109 bb)
MP: $24.15 (96.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $29.16 (116.6 bb)
BTN: $14.77 (59.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A 2 2 A
UTG raises to $0.60, MP folds, Hero raises to $2.15, BTN folds, SB calls $2.05, BB calls $1.90, UTG calls $1.55

Flop: ($8.60) 9 7 K (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($8.60) 2 (4 players)
SB bets $8.23, BB calls $8.23, UTG raises to $25.11, Hero???


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

after this action ott its an easy fold. utg often was waiting with his set otf and want u to craise. this is never a draw here (okay 98% )


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

SB leads into 3 people, that looks strong. Although the flop got checked, but he definitely has something, and full pot indicates a made hand. Even the fishes hit sometimes, so he has a set some of the time. Cold caller probably has a draw, but UTG is always (that 98% of time) raising with a valuehand. His range is so set-heavy, that I would just fold. Even if no one has a set, you probably have something like 35% equity on the turn. And as someone has a bigger set quite often, it's an easy fold imo.


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david1345
Joined: 10.10.2011

Ok i fold is just as i told u, SB is a monster fish i know he dont have anithing actually he has like botton two, BB has a draw, and the raiser has TOP TWO


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

i'm never folding here with so much dead money with the bottom set when the board is this drawy. Especially after the flop gets checked around people will think noone has anything so they will try to buy the pot.

Regards,

Skod


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Interesting point of view. I am curious to see ranges for villains that justify a shove here with a bottom set.

And you can't exclude sets from SB and UTG ranges, no matter how fishy SB is.

I get around 20-22% for hero OTT, and to justify a shove there hero needs around 25% (I don't expect SB or BB to fold anymore).


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

Originally posted by Skodljivec
Hi,

i'm never folding here with so much dead money with the bottom set when the board is this drawy. Especially after the flop gets checked around people will think noone has anything so they will try to buy the pot.

Regards,

Skod

actually i do not agree skoddy

i really see people like utg they check otf with KK here that they could craise. i agree that sb could just try to steal and BB really often has a draw here but when utg potraises here we are often beat. i would still fold


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Then we'll agree to disagree MrTrocks. I'd never ever fold here after the flop goes c/c/c/c. Sets should donk often enough so it's not such a big part range here for me to fear it.

Regards,

Skod


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

doppelpost


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

in PLO25 99% of the players try to check-raise a set in 3bet pot there otf.


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