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NL2 - KK showdown vs 2Pair

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Bloodboilerk
Joined: 05.05.2014

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.11
SB: $1.78
BB: $1.60
UTG: $2.00
UTG+1: $4.78
Hero (UTG+2): $2.08
MP: $2.10
MP+1: $1.97
CO: $1.52

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K♣ K♠

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, Hero raises to $0.18, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.39, 2 players) Q♣ 4♦ 3♠
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.19, UTG calls $0.19

Turn: ($0.77, 2 players) J♥
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.77, 2 players) 6♥
UTG bets $0.56, Hero calls $0.56

Spoiler

UTG shows Q♠ J♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 17%, Flop 22%, Turn 82%)
Hero mucks K♣ K♠ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 83%, Flop 78%, Turn 18%)
UTG wins $1.82

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Villain is 14/11 TAG with FCB 40% over 300 hands. He didn't call much and UTG so I put him on range 99+, AQ+ before the flop. He checks the flop and
I CBet for value. I know he calls 60% of the time on the flop so I figured he
either chose not to donk his Top Pair or he was holding a smaller pocket pair 99-JJ. He checks the turn and I check behind to keep the pot pretty reasonable. I though he might bet JJ here so I was guessing AQ, 9s or 10s.
he bets on what I considered to be a pretty blank River. His bet size made me think he might have slow played JJ but I bit into it guessing he was on AQ but he flipped up with a 2 pair.

Should I have known he had me beat by the size of his River bet? Should I barrel again on the turn after he checks what appeared to be a blank for him? I felt really surprised to see QJs when he was playing from Early Position, should I have considered a larger range?


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Hi Bloodboilerk

Preflop: looks fine

Postflop: I would double barrel the turn with the intention of folding if we get raised.

AQ is about 12 combos while QQ and JJ are at most 6 combos. So if those are the only hands you have him on that means that he is much more likely to hold AQ.

So I would bet turn and go from there.

As played the river is close because some people do not bet AQ or Qx there but if you don't know for sure calling is fine.

As a side note, when you leave a reply that you would like me to revisit please don't forget to click the "advise judge to take another look" button.

BEst regards,

Bogdan


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Bloodboilerk
Joined: 05.05.2014

I guess one of my bigger struggles right now is getting a feel for the strength of my Top Pair/Overpair/Middle Pair after the turn/on the river. I've been called down by both air and the nuts at NL2. I have a hard to knowing when double barrelling is spewy and when it's correct aggression. I checked in this case because I know my opponent's range includes JJ-QQ and I wanted to minimize possible loss. I guess I should be playing to what I think is most likely my opponent's range(AQ) and just take it every third time it's the nuts(JJ-QQ)? As you suggest if I barrel the turn and my opponent bets the river is that my queue to fold?

I didn't notice the advise button, thanks for that tip.


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redrawstump
Joined: 09.05.2012

Generally you wanna be value betting fairly freely. This is the same reason that bluffing over several streets is generally suicidal at NL2; people like to call down with made hands, without necessarily thinking about what you might have. In this hand betting the turn would make the river easier to play; chk/call flop and turn and donk lead river is usually a value line from villain that has your overpair in poor shape. So you can bet/fold turn and chk back river unimproved, folding to a river donk.


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Bloodboilerk
Joined: 05.05.2014

I guess now that I think about it makes more sense anyway if I would call a river bet to just bet on the turn instead. I guess my 1Pair hands go from Value to SDV instantly once I hit the turn when I should be thinking more into the situation. Maybe one day I will stop being a :f_confused:. Thanks guys.


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To add to what has been said, yes you want to be valuebetting as much as possible rather than play passive (and pay people off or lose value when they have worse).

In this case the amount of worse hands possible is far more than the amount of better hands.

So I would go with a bet on the turn (and you can fold to a raise) and if he calls and donks river (shove) we can fold as well.


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