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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls

Flop: (6.4 SB) 3 6 3 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB calls, CO calls

Turn: (4.7 BB) Q (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB raises, CO folds, Hero calls

River: (8.7 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls

Results: 10.7 BB pot (0.4 BB rake)
Final Board: 3 6 3 Q 5

passive bad player.


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

Standard play. If you intend to fold then fold it on the turn. If you havent seen him bluff then I would totally go for it otherwise Im calling down


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

The postflop betting pattern reminds me of a similar hand not long ago in these forums. (Then we had TT, there was a J on the board and it was capped preflop. The official verdict then was fold turn.)

Here the pot is smaller, and a turn x/r from a bad passive guy vs 2 is pretty convincing. Fold turn.


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Well problem with folding is only that it is very exploitable since if you fold this then you are folding a huge part of your range.

Im isolating here vs CO very wide...
22+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,76s,A2o+,K8o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o
this is pretty tight range there are even more speculative hards there for sure...but lets say it is like this...so 36%

Then on the flop and turn I would cbet it all.So if you fold 77 then you continue with smtn like this...
88+, 66, 33, AQs+, A6s, A3s, KQs, K6s, Q8s+, 76s, AsJs, KsJs, AsTs, KsTs, JsTs, As9s, Ks9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, Ks8s, Js8s, Ts8s, 9s8s, As7s, Ks7s, 8s7s, As5s, As4s, As2s, AQo+, A6o, A3o, KQo, Q9o+
which is 16%...therefore you are folding 55% of the time which makes this an auto profit raise situation for him... I would probably not be liking this so I preffer to either check some hands on turn or call at least a few more Ax on turn


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

In a heads-up pot it would be auto-profit.

Bluffing 3-handed with a turn check-raise is an expensive proposition. I don't even think it would be an exploitative fold if one runs down the math. Given a passive fish, there is only more incentive to fold. You need to invest 2 to win 9 - rake (call turn call river). Don't think there is a 14% chance he's bluffing vs 2. (Most passive-fish-style-bluffs on a double paired board are flop donks at these stakes.)


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

Against unknown i would call down but Avataren posted the information that BB is a passive bad player. So against people who underplay their hands, it's perfectly fine to overfold hands on the Turn and exploit his tendency to just raise if he's got some strong hand. I don't see this hand to be an easy calldown but against this guy it's a fold.


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