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Omaha(Hi/Lo)  [As Ad 5d Ks]

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Originally posted by daisuke3823
IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 Pot Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $2.63 (65.8 bb) [VPIP:71 PFR:14 Hands:399]
BB: $1.65 (41.3 bb) [VPIP:35 PFR:10 Hands:49]
UTG: $3 (75 bb)
MP: $6.03 (150.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $2.28 (57 bb) [VPIP:28 PFR:6 Hands:5.3k]
BTN: $1.52 (38 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 A A K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BTN folds, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.36) 5 6 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB raises to $1.11, BB raises to $1.53 and is all-in, Hero folds, SB calls $0.42

Turn: ($3.67) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($3.67) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

preflop, double ace double suited, also weak low .
its enough to raise,right?
on the flop it got checked so I bet.
but check raise and all in came so I folded.
fold was okey?
and my stats is [VPIP:28 PFR:6 Hands:5.3k] on 6 max PLO8
VPIP and PFR is too low for it?


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badgerer
Joined: 29.03.2010

i like open raising. this hand doesn't play well multiway so you want to push people out.

i don't like the cbet, this flop hits a typical calling range very hard. i would probably bet/fold vs 1 villain but any more and i'm giving up.

once you get raised you're in big trouble so it's a very easy fold. you are almost definitely way behind both ways here.


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amater0001
Joined: 07.04.2011

i wouldn't cbet here
perhaps u played v. me? :f_biggrin:


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ColorFlusher
Joined: 19.01.2008

Originally posted by daisuke3823and my stats is [VPIP:28 PFR:6 Hands:5.3k] on 6 max PLO8
VPIP and PFR is too low for it?

I play a lot PLO8. In my opinion your VPIP is slightly too high and PFR is way too low (for example my 3-bet is almost as high). But on the other hand there is plenty of winning styles I've seen work somewhat well ie. profitable.

For the winning opponents with 5k+ hands in my database the stats range from 13,7-32,6 VPIP and 4,3-18,4 PFR. Averages per opponent are 23,2 VPIP and 10,3 PFR. I would definetly say that the 10 PFR is still too low, because AA+A2 range, which is really strong, is already 9%. In addition to that there are more hands that are good for raise in position.

On the hand I agree with others.


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londonsystem
Joined: 19.11.2008

At this level, VPIP is O.K., and PFR 8% seems to be too obv. It means that you would raise with A2xx, AAxx, and A3+good sides only. Your raise would just telegraph what you have. I think either 15-20% or 5% is better, depending on your style.

For 15-20%, you would raise more often, especially from late position. Try never limp or call from button, but either open, raise or fold for a few sessions and see what happens.

You could mix it up by limp/call with your premium hands (A2 + wheel and suited, A2+high pair, AAWx) and raise only with naked A2xx, A3xx+good sides, then your PFR would be around 5%, but you could win big pots as your range is partially hidden.

For the hand itself, I think the fold was really good. On the flop, as I have position and weak high only, I would check back, and try to bluff 2/3 pot when checked again. They suspect you would have A2xx 50% of the time, so they could not call you that light.


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